Thread: Wtf

I actually felt really sorry for the guy, What a thing for anyone to have to live with. That is untill I heard some of his reported comments at the inquest.
Seems like he is living with it just fine, can even manage hunting and Firearms again. Disrespectful to the Family and the poor young guy whos life he ended.
Just sad

That adds balance Tahr, some things you cannot get from reading the report in the paper, Thanks calmed me down and changed my opinion!

'tell that to the dead mans widow and children' by scouser

i have to apologise for this statement i made, the victim was single, i got him mixed up with 'another' poor victim who was married with children....too many, just too many....really sad

Give me a man to hunt with who thinks he could kill someone than the one who thinks he never could.

Actually these two little snippets are more close to each other than all sides realise. This fella SHOULD have a new respect for the consequences of pulling the trigger. One thing that I took from the process of obtaining my licence was when you look through the scope ask yourself, "Is this a person?"

Originally Posted by Scribe

Give me a man to hunt with who thinks he could kill someone than the one who thinks he never could.

Originally Posted by Sidney

Everybody once through the process of legal accountability, has the right to move on.

I agree with both sides of the argument. Sidney is saying that Drummer has the right to apply, he is not saying that this application should be immediately accepted nor rejected. Everything should be weighed up and a decision made by those with all the information. Hence his suggestion that Tahr submit his experiences. There are a lot of questions that could be asked. Could loosing his FAL for life be considered serving his sentence, and that he is still serving it?

Sydney....you assume a lot too......pot, kettle, black......i have my opinion, you have yours.....hope this person does not kill one of your family or friends if he is allowed his FAL back.........

Ah yes, the law student is correct, we are all just dumb shits.

Debate sorted

Originally Posted by ebf

Ah yes, the law student is correct, we are all just dumb shits.

Debate sorted

If thats the strength of your argument.... self classification won't fix it for you....

The shit throwing started with someone else.... nothing in my original post has actually been challenged, contested with any semblance of logical contribution. The response was pure emotional bullshit.

If you want to not be classified with the hanging mob, then don't behave like them.

Originally Posted by Sidney

If thats the strength of your argument.... self classification won't fix it for you....

The shit throwing started with someone else.... nothing in my original post has actually been challenged, contested with any semblance of logical contribution. The response was pure emotional bullshit.

If you want to not be classified with the hanging mob, then don't behave like them.

Sydney, thats because, to coin a phrase 'the laws an ass'.....i fully understand where you are coming from as regards the legal standpoint, the man in question has 'served' his punishment according to the sentence handed down!

But herein lies the problem, the vast majority of Kiwis in this country (im a pom by the way) are sick and tired of these limp sentences that are being handed down, where the rights of the convicted wrong doer are considered first

and not the 'rights' of the victims family!!!!...."arr the poor man will miss his hunting 'hobby' and probably end up depressed".......its people of 'your ilk' (stereotyping here) and mindset that are the problem.....

he should never be allowed to touch a firearm again, im sorry if your civil libertarianism is knocked out of kilter by my judgemental emotionalism, but this forum is all about opinions....guess everybody on here now knows were we both stand...

you didnt answer my question either!

Originally Posted by Sidney

If thats the strength of your argument.... self classification won't fix it for you....

The shit throwing started with someone else.... nothing in my original post has actually been challenged, contested with any semblance of logical contribution. The response was pure emotional bullshit. Ahhhh yes, Sydney - however this is not a court of law, nor even a debating chamber, It is, if you like, a court of personal opinion, to which we are all entitled and you are as wong in saying everyone else is wrong as everyone else is, in saying you are wrong. OPinions are like arseholes - we all have one.

If you want to not be classified with the hanging mob, then don't behave like them.

I I I I

Originally Posted by keneff

I I I I

Shit the forum is a real nail bitter today

Originally Posted by BRADS

Shit the forum is a real nail bitter today

Must be dirty laundry day

Well, since we've managed to turn what started as an emotional and moral debate into a legal one, here's a legal question.

If a person has had a FAL revoked, are they still able to handle a firearm under the close supervision of a FAL holder ?

There is nothing to prevent them. They are not banned from using. They just don't hold a firearms licence.