Thread: 20g ammo advice

Originally Posted by Pointer

Before you blow that poor combo gun up you should sell it to me

I've used #3 buck on deer maybe only 20 yards distance, it worked well enough. I always keep one or two plus a solid handy when bird hunting in certain spots. Never seen 00 for sale in the 20g.

Haha they guy I got it from asked if he could buy it back after I got it going I told him he would have to pry it from my cold dead hands.
I mite have to cook something up or use slugs wounded deer are hard work to find in thick bush, gun city is selling some Imperial brand ones seems to be a little bit uncommon.

Yep any form of buckshot, even 00 out of a twelve bore, is a terrible wounder at best. Slugs are far superior

You gonna hunt on doc land?

Not aloud to hunt doc land with a shotgun, but if I did I would use a slug


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Originally Posted by FatLabrador

You gonna hunt on doc land?

There is no DoC land. It is our land, and DoC manage it on our behalf. Some would say quite badly!

you need #0 buck shot...thats .30 cal not .32 cal as #00 is.... there is/was a guy selling it on trademe..... dont piss around just open up a birdshot load and replace small shot with your buckshot and recrimp it as best you can.... even better still will be find some steel shot loads as these will have a very stout wadcup to protect barrel....
#7 buckshot is about .22cal and works good up close too.
mate had that very same combi and used it on wallabies with #2 shot very effective.

Originally Posted by Chippychow

Not aloud to hunt doc land with a shotgun, but if I did I would use a slug


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lake ellys doc land and i got doc permits for me and my 20 gauge lead polluteingno good steel fiding bane of all waterfowl
at least until 20 21 waaa
im having a cunt of a time getting proper waterfowl steel to try to.
didnt i see remington 18 pellet triple ought 20 gauge buck somewhere????
dont know if its wadded tho.
but id guess yes remy makes good shotty ammo
if your clever enough to make that muzzle heavy and unweldy tho it looks.
reloading somme 20 gauge loads to suit will be a piece of piddle.

if you ever see an old lee handloader/whackamole set n .20 ga grab it quick smart....loading shotgun shell with one is a doddle.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

if you ever see an old lee handloader/whackamole set n .20 ga grab it quick smart....loading shotgun shell with one is a doddle.

I’ll defiantly keep and eye out for one or maybe find some measurements for one and machine up the parts, looks easy enough

Originally Posted by gsp follower

lake ellys doc land and i got doc permits for me and my 20 gauge lead polluteingno good steel fiding bane of all waterfowl
at least until 20 21 waaa
im having a cunt of a time getting proper waterfowl steel to try to.
didnt i see remington 18 pellet triple ought 20 gauge buck somewhere????
dont know if its wadded tho.
but id guess yes remy makes good shotty ammo
if your clever enough to make that muzzle heavy and unweldy tho it looks.
reloading somme 20 gauge loads to suit will be a piece of piddle.

Will defiantly try and cook something up will only blow the can off the end of it goes wrong haha

Originally Posted by Chippychow

I’ll defiantly keep and eye out for one or maybe find some measurements for one and machine up the parts, looks easy enough

its a bugger you so far away or Id lend you one of my 12ga kits to get the gist of whats needed and lyman shotgun manual for measurements and load data... BASICALLY the primer gets poked out base of case with a nail into hole drilled in flat surface....primer placed by hand into pocket and pushed in by tapping down on flat surface...a dowel with hole slightly bigger than primer slid down inside case will do this bit.
powder measured out and put in,plastic wad put in and pushed down,shot put in, case then closed.the crimp starter is taperd hole with wee bumps inside to push hull into shape,either 6 or 8 star. you can do this by hand with used hulls. then star is pushed down onto shot with hull held in what is basically a chambersized tube and dowel like bit tapped to finish pushing star inwards and down...the whole trick is to have hull filled to correct lever so star closes and drops SLIGHTLY or rolls inwards if you like but star crimp stays firm.... if you look at early steel loads like winchester Xpert they have seared /melted star crimp shut.
being a break open gun you can get away with a lot as crimp doesnt need to be flash to chamber it...sure your lbs per inch of compression isnt going to be right.
easiest way will be to buy load of birdshot that has a wad in it and open crimp CAREFULLY with small screwdriver etc tip out birdshot and replace with buckshot...you CANT overload case with buckshot as the airspace between balls is greater than with the smaller shot so payload will be less. try smallest sinkers you can buy from warehouse if you cant source buckshot elsewhere...they work. the .410 is another guage that is served well with buckshot...man is that easy to put together.

[QUOTE.]..you CANT overload case with buckshot as the airspace between balls is greater than with the smaller shot so payload will be less. try smallest sinkers you can buy from warehouse if you cant source buckshot elsewhere...they work. the .410 is another guage that is served well with buckshot...man is that easy to put together. ][/QUOTE]

jesus micky i dont know if that logic holds
better would be to wiegh the buckshot pellets and get a 20 gauge load thats close as possible to that wieght.
over wieght would reqire less powder to start with to keep pressure down and you could build up to a hotter load.
if the bucks way lighter than the emptied out birdshot load that could be hairy to.

gsp follower......even the lee slug is only an once in .12ga....... and that is more dense. hang on a tick I will check my lyman manual.

ok you will have to read slowly as I cant type fast....
00buck 0.33" 53.8grains 8 pellets per once
0buck 0.32" 49.0 grains 9 pellets per once
1 buck 0.30" 40.5 grains 10 pellets per once
4buck 0.24" 20.7 grains 21 pellets per once

so unless you being a right dork and trying to stuff in more than will practically fit..you WONT overload a case. and the wee sinkers from warehouse actually have weight written on them
I think its the 1/8th oz ones we use for drowning worms.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

ok you will have to read slowly as I cant type fast....
00buck 0.33" 53.8grains 8 pellets per once
0buck 0.32" 49.0 grains 9 pellets per once
1 buck 0.30" 40.5 grains 10 pellets per once
4buck 0.24" 20.7 grains 21 pellets per once

so unless you being a right dork and trying to stuff in more than will practically fit..you WONT overload a case. and the wee sinkers from warehouse actually have weight written on them
I think its the 1/8th oz ones we use for drowning worms.

perfect micky wieght for wieght rather than guestimating volume.
you missed my favourite tho ''triple ought buck'
i just love the way that rolls of the tongue especialy the dukes.
the problem lies in that cases are not the length they say ie 2 3/4 is closer to 3 and a bit and 3 inch is 3 and a half almost to allow for the crimp.
but it could also trap a novice into stuffing more in than he should but sticking to the wieght for wieght route is safer.