Thread: 410 from Gunworks

Sorry should say they don’t work with the suppressor

Are these called Kea guns when used with slugs. I heard they were fairly popular for pigs at the bail back in the day.

Maybe there is a slight chance of stuck slug if the pressure is bled off as it travels down the barrel?

Originally Posted by Allizdog

Are these called Kea guns when used with slugs. I heard they were fairly popular for pigs at the bail back in the day.

Kea guns (Spanish Mugica) around 60 years ago were the first on the scene of the fold up single barrel 410 shotguns. (For fold up read concealable/poaching etc.)
They were also made in a very very short version which the pistol regs eventually made illegal.
I can remember as kids firing a 303 in one.....

Yeah, had the impression very few were around now days or they are illegal.

Originally Posted by faregame

Sorry should say they don’t work with the suppressor

dont work as in are still NOISY????? if thats the case....a 00 buckshot load is even more attractive.....noise will be because projectile is exiting at AROUND 16-1800fps so definately supersonic whereas the shot payloads are barely supersonic in normal shotty 12-1300fps so only 200-300fps to be bled off to go subsonic.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

dont work as in are still NOISY????? if thats the case....a 00 buckshot load is even more attractive.....noise will be because projectile is exiting at AROUND 16-1800fps so definately supersonic whereas the shot payloads are barely supersonic in normal shotty 12-1300fps so only 200-300fps to be bled off to go subsonic.

Yeah so the bleeding needs to be different for them; but that would stuff up the shot velocity too - the discs etc work fine, shot a possum with them

cool thanks for clearing that up....#00 buck will be ideal in that case.

Ok, so they day rocked around and here i am giving my 2 cents as promised.

First up customer service at gunworks was real good, quicker turn around in service than i thought.

The yıldız thats its built on seems to be a decent gun cheap single shot but most components look pretty solid the safety is easy to use and ergonomic.

The suppressor is well built and clearly a lot of work and machining goes into it, it adds very little weight to the barrel to the extent the mrs and already fired of 20 odd rounds at the top end of the paddock and isn't complaining yet.

Its quiet, not as quiet as id expected but for a 410 its an amazing achievement, id compare it to firing high velocity rounds out a .22. Im still getting that supersonic crack but not sure if thats something that'll bed in in time and it'll get quieter im sure i read about this somewhere.

any questions?

Really smart bit of kit when you take it apart. Yeah the barrel is already ported still that crack though, may just be this she'll though, Rio #5

plenty of different shell options out there...rio 2 1/2" are possibly the worst as payload is tiny...its less than half n oz 3" shells are SLOWER than 2 1/2" as same charge weight but the longer shell has half as much payload again...well most loads are close enough to make that generalised statement.
in a single shot you can get aaway with allsorts reloading wise...you can pop out spent primer with punch,replace and push it home with wooden dowel inside case pushing down onto flat surface...add powder,add wad push down,add shot and carefully refold crimp then press it down flat....being single shot you loading it so doesnt have to be perfect crimp...

wingman has great thread on reloading using brass cases....perfect for your application.

Yep no intention of making modifications would far rather play with the cartridges thanks for the info Micky I'll have a read up