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    Any antique shotgun people in the know around here?

    I have a couple of antique shotguns and i want to know if anyone can give me some info on them?
    They're Lyon and Lyon brand. Fully engraved. I have a his and hers pair. 12 and 20 gauge. 20 gauge is pretty much rooted but 12 is not too bad just a bit of pitting. Anyone have any history on these? cheers. Will post pics soon

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    Im sure someone was able to answer questions on another older shotgun....

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    If they're really clapped out and ancient then call @Maca49
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    I just shot the 12 gauge and it didn't blow up in my face which is a bonus. Pretty keen to use the 12 gauge for birds/bunnies.

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    I’m at Bathurst at the critical part of the race!!! Back Weds
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maca49 View Post
    I’m at Bathurst at the critical part of the race!!! Back Weds
    critical alright

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    Lyon & Lyon was a large retail outlet in India during the British Raj. I believe they had stores in Calcutta and Bombay and possibly elsewhere. They never manufactured anything but had guns made for them by various English gunmakers, from everyday grade up to the very best London guns. Photos and close-ups of proof marks etc. are needed for proper identification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trist323 View Post
    I just shot the 12 gauge and it didn't blow up in my face which is a bonus. Pretty keen to use the 12 gauge for birds/bunnies.
    I hope that you know about Damsacus barrels on shotguns.

    https://tinyurl.com/y2qurq5h

    You provide little information on what you have but if shooting what you have, establish what you have BEFORE shooting it with modern day cartridges.
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    try ringing Giles Stanford Taihape Sports he told me his passion is old shotguns he might be able to enlighten you as to what you have
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    Awesome cheers guys. I will post pics today after work. I took it to a gunsmith up here who said it would be safe to shoot with light lead loads which i did yesterday. However he was unsure of the history. Def not damascus barrels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mimms2 View Post
    It would be prudent, with arms of unknown history/condition, to tie them to a tyre in a paddock and let off a few rounds with a long string on the trigger.
    AFTER checking for nitro proof marks.

    How far is far north?
    Hammers? Box lock? They're indian made. Could be as old as 1890 ish. I have a list of proof marks which will give some idea of date.
    Proof marks as in serial numbers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mimms2 View Post
    It would be prudent, with arms of unknown history/condition, to tie them to a tyre in a paddock and let off a few rounds with a long string on the trigger.
    AFTER checking for nitro proof marks.

    How far is far north?
    Hammers? Box lock? They're indian made. Could be as old as 1890 ish. I have a list of proof marks which will give some idea of date.
    15 minutes north of Kerikeri

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    Quote Originally Posted by muzza View Post
    Clean them up and use them as wall hangers . ..................................
    "Wall hangers"? Ah lovely descriptive "old Terminology" encountered in the past. To me, wall hangers imply a replica or a firearm so ancient that it is incapable of discharging projectiles, 'HANGING ON A WALL.

    Although commonly found hanging on racks and over mantle pieces stc in the past, if the OP has fired shot from his, then surely it cannot legally NOW, just be hung on the wall on display as that will be well and truly unacceptable from Constable Plod's perspective of "secure storage:

    I may be wrong, but doesn't Plod now even reject rifle racks as unsuitable for dwellings so a more correct term, meeting with today's restrictive legislation would be cabinet lurker?
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    Under the barrels it has 12 stamped on them and on the flats it has the number 73729

 

 

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