Thread: How useful is a pump 12 gauge for clay birds?

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

DIRTY OLD BAKAIL......wash thy mouth out young man...........
for goats...see if you can find some #7 buckshot as well as the usual #00 it contains 27 x 22calibre balls Vs 9x.32cal

Mouth wash!? That's what baltika beer is for.

I have number 4's and #00

Will need to check the pattern.

Originally Posted by berg243

used to use a mossberg 500 for sporting clays with a modified choke. if barrel has a open choke load a 9 shot for first shot and a 7 and a half for the second shot.

I have some Italian gold medal something or rather. They were cheap. 80 bucks for a big box of 200 or so.

Originally Posted by Dundee

First shotgun I owned was a single barrel "Bakaiel" spelling might be wrong.I've had pump shot guns since mossberg,maverick,escort and now the akkar I do bloody well at the gun clubs.If my first shot doesn't break the clay second shot usually smashes the clays much to the amazement of onlookers.Go for it!

I can empty 8 shots before Jacinda interrupted in under 8 seconds with a pump gun

That's all the encouragement I need

mate shoots a20g p/a and i can assure you clays quail hares rabbits geese or ducks -all have fallen regularly to it.me 12g s/a x2 o/ux1 sxs x1 and i use em all on clays depending on my mood and which mastes operating the trap.three of us have our own traps.
shot a session recent;ly with GSPFusing 36gmno3steel (only ammo ihad on me. that wee baikal o/u she loved it the wee sexy lass!

My Baikal U/O rocks !......and Fiochi buck-shot, had the best stopping-power of all the brands we tried, on goats and pigs, through a mossberg-equivalent of yours. Are you sure you want to 'spray' the goats ? a days marination = amazing curry

I will never forget a sporting clays shoot where a guy won with a Rem 870, he beat people with very fancy u/o and semis. I was using a mossberg 500 and did ok.

Originally Posted by gundoc

Very popular in the US for trap and skeet. The famous Winchester Model 12 was made in trap and skeet models. A well-practiced shooter can fire them as fast as a semi or OU. I have been a pump user since I was a teenager in the 1960's.

Know of any modern pump action that can/will slam fire like the old Winchester trenchgun?

Originally Posted by rewa

My Baikal U/O rocks !......and Fiochi buck-shot, had the best stopping-power of all the brands we tried, on goats and pigs, through a mossberg-equivalent of yours. Are you sure you want to 'spray' the goats ? a days marination = amazing curry

My 308 is too big for the tiny block they're on. 223 is a no go.

22 mag takes too long to kill and I didn't like having to dump a few rounds into them.

Originally Posted by Cordite

Know of any modern pump action that can/will slam fire like the old Winchester trenchgun?

IAC Norinco 97 will slam fire. Upper Hutt gun shop bring them in for the CAS shooters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Bx6haCuD0E

Originally Posted by Russian 22.

My 308 is too big for the tiny block they're on. 223 is a no go.

22 mag takes too long to kill and I didn't like having to dump a few rounds into them.

I've been shooting at 'going away' clays for years with a Gun City 18 1/2" barrel 870 Remmy clone with a cylinder bore and peep sights. Great fun gun with 71/2 shot and even better with all manner of slugs. The one thing I personally wouldn't do is shoot at goats with any gauge shot besides solids. You'll be back to peppering the poor sods again and that's never good.

Originally Posted by Max Headroom

If you're looking for a little speed and efficiency, try pulling rearward gently on the pump handle as you fire.

The action will unlock after the shot and the recoil plus your rearward pull will help bring the gun out of battery, and eject the empty case swiftly.

Done right, it will mean a slightly faster 2nd shot.

On my Mossberg 500 if you have any weight at all on the fore end ( pump handle LOL) it doesn't work. I believe the Winchester 1200 types do though.
Hit them with the first shot and you are sweet. I have always had a go with my 500 just before ducks since the steel thing came in otherwise I would've stuck with the A5 for everything. Bit too full for clays but if I did my bit is was fine. Not so much nowadays.
Tried it at the local gun club and had a whisper that it wasn't legal at the club anymore but not sure if it was the new rules maybe-its still legal under the new definitions-and I did use it at NZCTA clubs years ago with no dramas. He still let me shoot so maybe the new anti evil gun law interpretations?

Originally Posted by gundoc

I have been a pumping since I was a teenager in the 1960's.

@gundoc there fixed it for ya. I'm sure you have. Stay at it.

Originally Posted by Russian 22.

I have a pump action shotgun I have never used and noticed that there is a Shotgun shoot at my local nzda range.

Apart from loading 2 shells anyone had nay issues with them?

just don't use buck shot & you will be fine

Originally Posted by Russian 22.

My 308 is too big for the tiny block they're on. 223 is a no go.

22 mag takes too long to kill and I didn't like having to dump a few rounds into them.

.22 hornet is perfect for goats, in your situation, not much help if you havent got access to one I guess

Originally Posted by Boaraxa

just don't use buck shot & you will be fine

Originally Posted by rewa

.22 hornet is perfect for goats, in your situation, not much help if you havent got access to one I guess

Nope. No plans or money for one.

Originally Posted by Cordite

Know of any modern pump action that can/will slam fire like the old Winchester trenchgun?

I believe there was a design change to the Ithaca mod 37 in the 60's or 70's due to liability and insurance etc. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a modern design or copy of an old model with that feature.