Thread: secondhand shotguns

yes it is french even the engraving.

Originally Posted by lophortyx

Attachment 59190this is a very interesting gun. manufactured in 1902.who can guess the manufacturer,the country of origin,and anything about the features of the gun.the barrels will be blue at some stage but otherwise the gun will stay as it is.yes i have shot it. i bought this from a gunshop - it was not in going condition,sold as parts only,anyone care to guess what i paid for it.

The out come of this is?
KH

Id be keen to know more as well

this gun is a 24ga. and manufactured by Manufrance,an "Ideal" model of which there are various grades.the cartridges shown are a .410,28ga,24ga.,20ga., 12ga., and a 16ga.the fascinating thing is that this is a round bodied,trigger plate action gun.today if you wanted to buy the equivalent british gun from the same era,you would be looking at a Dickson or MacNaughton,scottish made, and these start at us$10,000 WITH MANY $20,000 PLUS. i acquired this for a few dollars more than i later paid for the book.also you may note that Baikal borrowed the opening lever design at a much later date for their single barrel rifle and shotguns.the gun weighs about 5lb.it comes up beautifully but like all lightweight shotguns it takes a bit of practise to keep the gun going on crossing shots.ammo is available,but shot choice is limited and expensive,about $300 a slab.i had to have the chambers eased as i think it was made for brass cases,and the fiocchi plastic ones wouldn't fit.my guess is the it was made to carry with the idea of potting something a rabbit,hare or maybe woodcock,snipe.low noise and easy to carry.i had the snap caps especially made.i have become very fond of this gun.

Originally Posted by lophortyx

Attachment 59544this gun is a 24ga. and manufactured by Manufrance,an "Ideal" model of which there are various grades.the cartridges shown are a .410,28ga,24ga.,20ga., 12ga., and a 16ga.the fascinating thing is that this is a round bodied,trigger plate action gun.today if you wanted to buy the equivalent british gun from the same era,you would be looking at a Dickson or MacNaughton,scottish made, and these start at us$10,000 WITH MANY $20,000 PLUS. i acquired this for a few dollars more than i later paid for the book.also you may note that Baikal borrowed the opening lever design at a much later date for their single barrel rifle and shotguns.the gun weighs about 5lb.it comes up beautifully but like all lightweight shotguns it takes a bit of practise to keep the gun going on crossing shots.ammo is available,but shot choice is limited and expensive,about $300 a slab.i had to have the chambers eased as i think it was made for brass cases,and the fiocchi plastic ones wouldn't fit.my guess is the it was made to carry with the idea of potting something a rabbit,hare or maybe woodcock,snipe.low noise and easy to carry.i had the snap caps especially made.i have become very fond of this gun.

So have I
KH

Not seen to many of those! Every now and then some come through Holts but not ver often.
Id have it just becasue its different

[few of the more unusal ones ive found in my travels

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nice shotguns Major F. the under/over i recognise as a Verney Carron, a fantastic game gun from france.the three sxs i will have a think about before i guess that one.i see you love good wood on a gun.

I recognise the 1st gun - was that you bidding against me ?

there is something about side plates and engraving that really does it for me.

the first gun with the detachable sidelocks, i think is spanish,my guess made by Gorosabel,the middle gun has got me stumped,has it been restocked,? it could be italian,although it has been made for the uk. market judging by the stock and engraving.the last gun,i think is spanish,possibly made by arrieta. it is hard to tell just from the photos.

Originally Posted by lophortyx

nice shotguns Major F. the under/over i recognise as a Verney Carron, a fantastic game gun from france.the three sxs i will have a think about before i guess that one.i see you love good wood on a gun.

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