Thread: This week we test a old shot gun for steel shot

dskd.i think you would agree that the video was set up for a spectacular result.ok it is a visual world these days,but must our standards always be detirmined by idiots and the impressionable? if you had put a beretta A400 in that set up and fired a shot it still would have launched itself into the air and the gun would have been damaged on impact. in my opinion there should be a lot more awareness about ammo,the effectiveness of various loads etc.many novices think that big loads means more birds,no not necessary,it will damage gun and shoulder more and blow patterns apart.i would recommend that novices never shoot more than 35gms or steel that goes faster than 1450 ft/sec. i never have and i shoot my share and when i miss its never because of the ammo or gun,although i have used every other excuse.

Originally Posted by lophortyx

dskd.i think you would agree that the video was set up for a spectacular result.ok it is a visual world these days,but must our standards always be detirmined by idiots and the impressionable? if you had put a beretta A400 in that set up and fired a shot it still would have launched itself into the air and the gun would have been damaged on impact. in my opinion there should be a lot more awareness about ammo,the effectiveness of various loads etc.many novices think that big loads means more birds,no not necessary,it will damage gun and shoulder more and blow patterns apart.i would recommend that novices never shoot more than 35gms or steel that goes faster than 1450 ft/sec. i never have and i shoot my share and when i miss its never because of the ammo or gun,although i have used every other excuse.

I'm going to test that i think , ill put 3 inch in my versa max and see if it jumps out or stays

i think it illustrates a point nicely.
there are people who think because a 3 inch shell fits into a 2 3/4 inch chamber ''its ok''
ive run into some guys who were told thier 18 inch barrelled riot gun with buckshot was fine for geese.
kotuku was there that day and was incredulous as well as highly offended at their ignorance.
no permits either

Lophortyx. There are many many people using shotguns at duckshooting who simply don't have the knowledge or experience you or I may have about what ammo you can use safely. I've seen (and stopped) guys from putting 3 inch steel into older shotguns, they simply didn't know what could happen if they fired it. I've stood beside a friend who split a barrel doing exactly this, 3 inch steel in an old o/u, shooting hares off a ute, he'd done a lot of shooting and didn't even know . All dskd is trying to show is what could happen and to get your gun checked if you aren't certain. I think it gives an excellent example of what could happen, as the video is pretty self explanatory. Wrong ammo, blown up gun.


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actually on the original subject iremember in the mid 1970s doing a duckshooting preseason clay shoot at the kokatahi gun club.the bought a DOL inspector in who gave us a bloody excellent presentation on firearms safety .this guy really knew his stuff ,so much so I can still recall it even today.the photos of what happens if a 20g is put into a 12g chamber then a 12g is dropped on top ,were definitely ball grabbing.likewise his detonating of ye old .303 with a crescent tap on the cocking piece.!
My late father confiscated his great grandfathers gun off my cousin in the mid 1960s,due to smokeless 23/4"ammo being used .Dad was adamant then that this was not on.
I have the said gun(clan heirloom)and the damascus bores are akin to a very severe case of adolescent acne.I removed the firing pins(buggered both)and thus it will remain.

At the end of the day just get your old shotguns checked. My granddad went in to get his chopped but the gun smith wouldn't do it because it would ruin the gun. He instead bored out the barrels. Works fine too pop went out to retrieve a duck I shot and this drake came shooting in just as he got out of the mai mai so I picked up pops gun dropping my empty gun shitty pump action and dropped the hua with number #2 steel. Was pretty cool

Just to add, my dad and uncle never had to cut or bore out the barrels on their old side by sides to shoot steel so it is worth getting the old guns checked as they could be very usable still. It'd be a shame to turn your old shotty into a safe queen because you're too lazy to get it checked.

On the note of blowing barrels also be very careful of reloads you are given. My first shotgun was a old as SxS and I loved it until I got given some handloads and they ended up swelling my barrels up. Lucky it didn't go bang instead but cant have been far off splitting open you could make out a small fracture