Thread: Breeding and its finer points

Originally Posted by EeeBees

I mean, Ruff, it is my heartfelt and utter passion and endeavour for my dogs to maintain the form of the breed...

I absolutely agree with that, and I can demonstrate how a written standard doesn;t achieve that.... I agree with type, form and confirmation etc etc... and it is done, but knowledgeable dog people without any need for any NZKC written (flawed) piece of paper judged by an overweight woman from buttfuck Idaho or one from the country of origin... it only requires passionate people, with no agenda... and they exist... standards were created by people to ensure others bred dogs like theirs, not better dogs.

NOW breeding ideas and ideals guys -lets hear it please

I think it shouldn't be discussed here. I will never breed closer than grandparents... others will.. we can slag each other off till hell freezes over.. it won;t change what we do and will waste bandwidth with a wanky argument... or is that what you want???

Ruff -Ill say it again -I know nothing of breeding and am looking to learn more --please lead the way !!

Originally Posted by el borracho

Ruff -Ill say it again -I know nothing of breeding and am looking to learn more --please lead the way !!

Didn't I just say why I wouldn't?

I took a few squeakers about 20km from home yesterday, released them out side Ormond by the riverbank for their first flight.

Of the ten that went, six came back, including the three ash red males who are good strong flyers. These all obviously home back, the others that didn't come back obviously don't

Thats my take on breeding

Originally Posted by Ruff

Didn't I just say why I wouldn't?

NO , no you didnt -you said you didnt think this should be discussed here ??? I if you dont want to talk about dog breeding thats your choice but I would welcome some thoughts from others please

Originally Posted by Pointer

I took a few squeakers about 20km from home yesterday, released them out side Ormond by the riverbank for their first flight.

Of the ten that went, six came back, including the three ash red males who are good strong flyers. These all obviously home back, the others that didn't come back obviously don't

Thats my take on breeding

I would certainly consider them also Pointer !!! You have read alot about breeding programes and have read Tessios writings I believe ??? Ruff wont breed closer than Grand parents -is that an accepted standard ?

Brian... stop trying to start fights....

Ruff you really dont believe me do you --Im serious mate I know nothing of breeding !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by el borracho

I do not !!!
Whats your thoughts on mating Ruff -how close to the dogs or bitches other family members .

EEs Bees I wonder If Robyn Gaskin breeds with her most winning dogs to others or goes to some Hunter in the corner of the farm and uses his dogs ??? my point really

Again , Leon describes this in his book when he chose to use Bills dog as sire on a litter

do you think Leons choices were always correct Zharn - he changes his program I believe after Tweed -correct if I am wrong

Originally Posted by el borracho

good endeavor to aim for Victoria !!!

it is already achieved...

Originally Posted by el borracho

I would certainly consider them also Pointer !!! You have read alot about breeding programes and have read Tessios writings I believe ??? Ruff wont breed closer than Grand parents -is that an accepted standard ?

It would also depend on said dogs breeding. Its like golf, play the course our on.
Why are you asking anyways? Are you planning on bringing your import in pregnant?

I hope some knowledge starts to flow here and personal experiences of breeding from those well read or versed in the pros and cons of matching up animals