Thread: english setter pups aussi

What kind of moron has a porche for hunting?

If you didn't want speed and range, why would you get a setter, or a pointer for that matter? There are plenty of other breeds to suit that job. Watering them down with show blood is a moot point

a styley one,probably would wear tweed to

Good for standing on a peg.

Pointer there are many tracts of land hunted that dont suit a setter as much as it might suit a different breed .Aesthetics and romnce comes into the equation also

Real hunters have short wheel base models....

El Borracho, the setter bitch you mention has back behind her twice a Master Hunter, but what will she be bred to? If bred to show that has no proven working ability your chances of a reasonable pup fall even further.
Also if you did get a pup and breed to NZ working lines you would then have an outcross.
Remember there are and always has been two distinct types of English Setter, the Llewellan and Laverick. One is mostly show, one is working.
No doubt you can combine the two and get a good working pup if you ran the most likely ones on and chose carefully.

Originally Posted by GSP

No doubt you can combine the two and get a good working pup if you ran the most likely ones on and chose carefully.

I think there is a world of doubt.

The real question is why would you bother?

Originally Posted by el borracho

Pointer there are many tracts of land hunted that dont suit a setter as much as it might suit a different breed .

Thanks for clearing that up

Originally Posted by RCGSP

The real question is why would you bother?

Especially when he has a well-bred bitch coming and access to a few good sires...

Pointer had there been no Bitches to breed from I would take that bitch at no problem at all !!! And I would also encourage someone to buy it still .We dont have people breeding enough Setters here at all -try to buy one in NZ -you cannot .

I would entertain training a Show Setter if I had to and if it could point I would make it into an animal with manners and hopefully with time ability .The fact is I have a new bitch coming so its kinds mute for sure but If I didnt it would be here!

Maybe there's not many being bred here because there isn't demand?

I repeat...

Think of the recipe this way... 1lb shit, mix with 1lb Beluga cavier... stir well... you essentially still have a bowl of shit. You haven;t improved the shit and you have ruined the cavier.....

A lack of setters is not a good enough reason for anyone to breed a crap litter of them. And to conduct your experiment, unless you have the nads to cull everything but what might work out after running on you are going to be inflicting the rest of the litter some poor unsuspecting bugger...

Next time you have a thought... Let it go.....

El B if it was that bad, then why wouldn't you get a locally bred show bitch to start with? there was a litter not long ago. Personally I would follow your route and get working stock, there is no excuse for taking a step backwards.

Ryen, they are not being bred due to the people behind the setters, not the dogs themselves. I think there would be enough interest for a litter every so often. Obviously if you pumped out puppies like the trademe vizsla/gsp crowd then you will have trouble selling them, but from what I have gathered talking to people there is always moderate demand for a well bred working pointer or setter

Originally Posted by RCGSP

Maybe there's not many being bred here because there isn't demand?

you tried getting a James Bond db5 lately -Its not that people don't want them its just that they're not so available -- for some reason the Toyota is wanted lol