Thread: english setter pups aussi

Maybe there's not many being bred here because there isn't demand?

Originally Posted by RCGSP

Maybe there's not many being bred here because there isn't demand?

you tried getting a James Bond db5 lately -Its not that people don't want them its just that they're not so available -- for some reason the Toyota is wanted lol

I repeat...

Think of the recipe this way... 1lb shit, mix with 1lb Beluga cavier... stir well... you essentially still have a bowl of shit. You haven;t improved the shit and you have ruined the cavier.....

A lack of setters is not a good enough reason for anyone to breed a crap litter of them. And to conduct your experiment, unless you have the nads to cull everything but what might work out after running on you are going to be inflicting the rest of the litter some poor unsuspecting bugger...

Next time you have a thought... Let it go.....

El B if it was that bad, then why wouldn't you get a locally bred show bitch to start with? there was a litter not long ago. Personally I would follow your route and get working stock, there is no excuse for taking a step backwards.

Ryen, they are not being bred due to the people behind the setters, not the dogs themselves. I think there would be enough interest for a litter every so often. Obviously if you pumped out puppies like the trademe vizsla/gsp crowd then you will have trouble selling them, but from what I have gathered talking to people there is always moderate demand for a well bred working pointer or setter

Originally Posted by Pointer

El B if it was that bad, then why wouldn't you get a locally bred show bitch to start with? there was a litter not long ago. Personally I would follow your route and get working stock, there is no excuse for taking a step backwards.

Ryen, they are not being bred due to the people behind the setters, not the dogs themselves. I think there would be enough interest for a litter every so often. Obviously if you pumped out puppies like the trademe vizsla/gsp crowd then you will have trouble selling them, but from what I have gathered talking to people there is always moderate demand for a well bred working pointer or setter

Yep when good ones are bred, people buy them.

Originally Posted by Pointer

El B if it was that bad, then why wouldn't you get a locally bred show bitch to start with? there was a litter not long ago. Personally I would follow your route and get working stock, there is no excuse for taking a step backwards.

Ryen, they are not being bred due to the people behind the setters, not the dogs themselves. I think there would be enough interest for a litter every so often. Obviously if you pumped out puppies like the trademe vizsla/gsp crowd then you will have trouble selling them, but from what I have gathered talking to people there is always moderate demand for a well bred working pointer or setter

That is it when you talk to ES breeders.
EL b you seem to be planning a few litters but have you been involved with trying to sell a litter in NZ yet?
I have 8 dead keen but that is after about 3 years of networking.
The good setters in nz naturally adjust there rang depending on cover so there should be no reason to breed a slower dog really.

Good point, there is a young setter here, while a different colour to yours, who will spaniel in the tight and open up in the clear, seems to be a trait of setters in general. You have to remember, they were the HPR breed before the term was invented.

As for selling pups, I'd imagine half of each litter would end up in Aussie?

luckily the ES seems to be flavour of the month in oz. So it seems they will take the excess at the moment but again you wouldn't want to just asume.

Don't get me wrong. I would love to see more WELL BRED ES in the field. It is just a hard market here.

HARD MARKET , that could well be true CMORE I think it more of a style thing -we have it the others dont !!

Originally Posted by el borracho

HARD MARKET , that could well be true CMORE I think it more of a style thing -we have it the others dont !!

El B, style a hunter does not make...its the brains, the nose, the drive that is exciting, not some glamour puss strutting its stuff...

Originally Posted by EeeBees

El B, style a hunter does not make...its the brains, the nose, the drive that is exciting, not some glamour puss strutting its stuff...

got all that shit to ,payed a buck fifty and up sized

Originally Posted by EeeBees

El B, style a hunter does not make...its the brains, the nose, the drive that is exciting, not some glamour puss strutting its stuff...

Style incorporates every element you suggest... style doesn;t mean it has a Gucci vest, as most all gun dog trainers and handlers know, style is an all encompassing term for how it does its overall job,.

Dream on

Real style