Thread: Hunting Aotearoa Thursday 9:30

Originally Posted by el borracho

I think Robyn represented well and also made the point that she is primarily a "hunter" as are most of the others that trial in the club .
Some, at times differentiate trial and hunting dogs here in NZ where is the fact is 99% are all worked in the bird season

Make that 99.01% now, el borracho. I got out duck shooting with my two this season and have a couple of invites to go out on pheasants soon.

(The ducks were very safe with my shooting abilities although my shooter partner didn't let many get away! The first 2 over the pond on the last weekend were downed with one shot)

Originally Posted by kawhia

if ya want decent pheasant hunting forget fish and game, a group of mates and some land can produce far more.
syndicate shoots are the future you blokes in the south just need to have a go.

Food for thought, definitely. I need to get a new pup first before I can worry about it to much.

If I could release a few on the family farms it would be good. Tons of good country.

Originally Posted by R93

Food for thought, definitely. I need to get a new pup first before I can worry about it to much.

If I could release a few on the family farms it would be good. Tons of good country.

DO IT. When Im a bit older and have better idea of where Im staying thats my plan. I would release some now but dont want to if I get a job and move.

Originally Posted by Toby

DO IT. When Im a bit older and have better idea of where Im staying thats my plan. I would release some now but dont want to if I get a job and move.

Don't think our region will allow it. No upland game were we are.


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Dont tell them. well its a bit late for that now I guess

Originally Posted by Ruff

Because a trillion rabbits in an area holding five pheasants is not equivalent to a few hedgehogs and possums. The spaniel guys do well down there because rabbits are the primary quarry of a spaniel. The bird dogs do not hunt fur at all.

Having said that, i agree there is plenty of ground to hold trials on quail etc that is not over run with rabbits. It seems many modern day triallers who were not around in the formation days of live game trialling are unaware of how well we did on wild populations pre preserves and syndicates, there is another argument that could be made that high game areas are detrimental to producing better dogs for the average hunter...

Kawhia is correct, the only missing ingredient is people with the drive to make something happen. that's what started it up here. If we possessed the drive our dogs do the world would be our oyster.

...Fish and game have made an effort to bring pheasant numbers up in Canterbury . Some will argue not enough , but we now have two days hunting as opposed to the one we had for years . At a glance it may appear a lot of country to hold birds , but our braided river fringes are in decline because of the dairy conversions . What seems to be left is tiger country . I doubt you could trail in that , yes you can or will put out a bird but its not pretty. On the rabbits I've been told there is a parallel , high numbers rabbits = good numbers of quail .

I did more than glance at the country, and that tiger country you mention is ideal pheasant habitat, and it's not even that tight compared to the blackberry we have up here. the highland country was awesome, didn't really get into any decent rabbits however, only shot one and that was while spotlighting a crop for deer.
just a shame I got rained off but did partake in some excellent duck shooting.

Can someone enlighten me on what is required to set up a syndicate shoot ?
I believe that some preserves offer a shoot where you can shoot over your own dog (last price I heard quoted was $500.00 a gun with a limit of 10 birds shot).
Would 10 birds shot provide enough opportunities for 5 braces of dogs to get a result in a live game trial? If that number of birds shot would work, then how many of you would want to pay an entry fee of $50.00 per dog just to cover the cost of the birds?

There are a few pheasants in the Selwyn River/Darfield area but who wants to run a dog though a herd of 1000 dairy cows, cowshit up to your knees and an electric fence every 100 metres. Because other than the gorse and willow choked edges of the Selwyn the dairy farms are where you will come across the Canterbury pheasants.

Originally Posted by kawhia

I did more than glance at the country, and that tiger country you mention is ideal pheasant habitat, and it's not even that tight compared to the blackberry we have up here. the highland country was awesome, didn't really get into any decent rabbits however, only shot one and that was while spotlighting a crop for deer.
just a shame I got rained off but did partake in some excellent duck shooting.

What sort of hunter are YOU spot lighting deer - thought that was illegal??? What happened to identifing your target and landing zone of the bullet - pretty hard when there's no background!!!!!

what sort of dip shit are you ?
private land with the owners blessing and instruction to get rid of them out of a crop, maybe you should work out what is illegal and legal before posting.

Originally Posted by Smallfry

Can someone enlighten me on what is required to set up a syndicate shoot ?
I believe that some preserves offer a shoot where you can shoot over your own dog (last price I heard quoted was $500.00 a gun with a limit of 10 birds shot).
Would 10 birds shot provide enough opportunities for 5 braces of dogs to get a result in a live game trial? If that number of birds shot would work, then how many of you would want to pay an entry fee of $50.00 per dog just to cover the cost of the birds?

There are a few pheasants in the Selwyn River/Darfield area but who wants to run a dog though a herd of 1000 dairy cows, cowshit up to your knees and an electric fence every 100 metres. Because other than the gorse and willow choked edges of the Selwyn the dairy farms are where you will come across the Canterbury pheasants.

permits to release pheasant are obtained from doc, depending on your fish and game region the amount released can be as low as 400 and up to 1000 min, bag limits for pheasants around timaru was 4 per day to reflect the work put in by syndicates and a few shoots with unlimited and hens to be shot permits.
most trials held on preserves are free or min charge as most preserves like to encourage the gundog clubs, some shoots do provide the guns on the day, and numbers of birds shot is very low, the spaniel guys are just as happy to shoot a bunny on a preserve.
the Selwyn darfield dairy country is similar to most parts of the Waikato, cows and electric fences included.

If I was fishing I would rather catch a "Kawhai" than a "Smallfry"

Originally Posted by Smallfry

What sort of hunter are YOU spot lighting deer - thought that was illegal??? What happened to identifing your target and landing zone of the bullet - pretty hard when there's no background!!!!!

Your taking the piss surely? If not you can't be called smallfry. Should be called 2 dicks.



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Originally Posted by Dundee

If I was fishing I would rather catch a "Kawhai" than a "Smallfry"

Dundee you would rather catch a big arsed mother fucker of a trout

Oooooo, Rushy...Sunday morning and all!!!