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    Re: importing Frozen Semen i

    How do you mean? Noel has 'Woodys'GRFT CH & FCH CHYWOON ENTERPRENEUR OF JONSMAE (IMP-UK) Semen to use next breeding
    Tweed or not to Tweed that is the question

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    Re: importing Frozen Semen i

    what is your dogs pedigree name el b

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    Re: importing Frozen Semen i

    ahhh so he's putting woody over that pup who's pedigree i posted up.

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    Re: importing Frozen Semen i

    My dog is North Stream Bebeto

    sire =Wingfield Warrior
    Dam Lapphaugens H Moulin
    Tweed or not to Tweed that is the question

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    Re: importing Frozen Semen i

    If it is the one Ian H Breed and Noel has then yes.That will also depend if the bitch keeps coming along as she currently is which Noels says is very instinctive
    Last edited by el borracho; 29-08-2012 at 09:15 PM.
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    Re: importing Frozen Semen i

    when is that litter planed for el brorracho

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    Re: importing Frozen Semen i

    the bitch is now one and Noel would like to bred at around 2 years old - so around 1 or so years
    Tweed or not to Tweed that is the question

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    Re: importing Frozen Semen i

    Quote Originally Posted by kawhia View Post
    ahhh so he's putting woody over that pup who's pedigree i posted up.
    not quite as Noels bitch in Game Ridge Impressor. BerryField Gem in that pedigree is also by woody

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    Re: importing Frozen Semen i

    Who owns Gus. I read the below by FT ,he,s understandably pissed


    Moulin had that second litter shortly after Leon passed away. Since then it's
    sad to conclude that the NZ setter breeding has been on a downturn spiral.
    I have also quit the NZ trials, which all were a bit of a joke. Not worth
    spending space about on these pages as they are none of my problem. If
    people want to spend time attending those it's up to them, I just continue to
    keep my eye and interest on Europe. The latest import from Europe was
    Vårhaugens Gus. He was from one of several litters I found and contacted
    the breeders by mail and phone about. Leon agreed with the Gus-litter and he
    was imported by a third party. He is a well-bred dog, with siblings
    performing well in Norway, and I was interested in breeding from him. That
    was not happening when I was told I had to pay double mating fee and I
    wasn't allowed to sell any of the pups to Australia. A bit surprising
    considering I organized the import and quite ironic that the breed now is
    dying in NZ and blossoming in Australia from using dogs I have bred...
    Last edited by el borracho; 30-08-2012 at 12:26 AM.
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    Re: importing Frozen Semen i

    Quote Originally Posted by upnorth uplander View Post
    not quite as Noels bitch in Game Ridge Impressor. BerryField Gem in that pedigree is also by woody
    line bred to woody, repeating it again if the mating takes......... seems to be enough out cross there to stop the fifth leg appearing.
    el b,
    paying a double mating fee, two pups, and restricting where the pups are sold is not really a big issue, you can see why the politics play a part in the setters.

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    Re: importing Frozen Semen i

    I disagree with the control aspect of Gus's owner--who is it? Given The amount of Setters we need enthusiasm not a binding cant do this ad that contract .I fully sympathize with FT
    Tweed or not to Tweed that is the question

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    Re: importing Frozen Semen i

    that should say a " dont to add to a binding contract" .Frank Tommy obviously went to some effort to help Gus's owner out --I would be very pissed also
    Tweed or not to Tweed that is the question

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    Re: importing Frozen Semen i

    end of the day 'gus's owner fronted up with the coin, the stud fee was what it was...... gus's owner could have just said no.
    Last edited by kawhia; 30-08-2012 at 10:10 AM.

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    Re: importing Frozen Semen i

    Quote Originally Posted by kawhia View Post
    line bred to woody, repeating it again if the mating takes......... seems to be enough out cross there to stop the fifth leg appearing.
    el b,
    paying a double mating fee, two pups, and restricting where the pups are sold is not really a big issue, you can see why the politics play a part in the setters.
    is there enuff interest in setters to put this type of restriction in place, I dont have a problem with double mating fee , if you want to keep a breed going then you have to spend $$$$$ somewhere but with the effort/time/phone bills that F-T put into finding this dog , maybe he should have got 1 mating out of it

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    Re: importing Frozen Semen i

    from what ive been told and it comes from more than 1 source, The idea of charging F-T double stud fee and not allowing pups to be exported to OZ came from another setter breeder in NZ who had a falling out with F-T and just wanted to fuck him over

 

 

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