Thread: importing Frozen Semen i

Get a bitch out of the litter Murray has been talking about - its breeding ties in with your dog nicely. Then go through the NZKC site and approach every owner of a later wingfield dog and see whats alive. Collect tadpoles and make friends with the 'blackfield' crowd, N. Allen, and I. Hendren and Voilà - enough breeding material for the foundation of a focused and dedicated kennel for the next couple of decades

Originally Posted by Pointer

Get a bitch out of the litter Murray has been talking about - its breeding ties in with your dog nicely. Then go through the NZKC site and approach every owner of a later wingfield dog and see whats alive. Collect tadpoles and make friends with the 'blackfield' crowd, N. Allen, and I. Hendren and Voilà - enough breeding material for the foundation of a focused and dedicated kennel for the next couple of decades

This will be a very good litter.
There is already talk of breeding the pick of this litter back to a NZ line also.

interesting as its something i often think about my self, but the price tag........... that's gotta hurt

Originally Posted by Kaimaicockher

interesting as its something i often think about my self, but the price tag........... that's gotta hurt

I don't see the problem, it's a cheap hobby in the scheme of things. The last dog I brought into the country cost the same as a gearset for a drag car I had.

*Edit* I just looked up the receipt - the dog was cheaper

yeh no problem with it at all , some thing i will be looking more in to, in time....

the problem is , just because you import a few dogs does not make them good , it just makes them imported , very good starting point though

Originally Posted by Kaimaicockher

yeh no problem with it at all , some thing i will be looking more in to, in time....

the problem is , just because you import a few dogs does not make them good , it just makes them imported , very good starting point though

bingo - this is what I was trying to say to El Borracho - start with something proven in our conditions and our testing systems. sires are the easy part, they are determined by the size of your cheque book.

You are talking setters Kaimai?

well you see my problem is i would like a few dogs from each breed ha ha , i love them all

it would be cocker or setter or lab or springer ,, but need much much more time with all of them before i would commit to anything ......... its just some thing my dog obsessed mind thinks about ha ha

the lab and springer blood is here already so ....................

Sorry I forgot to reply to the original question

As Kawhia says, I chose to import the whole dog instead of just semen and I'm glad I did.

You took a smart way, you imported an older proven dog as opposed to an unproven pup. I reckon semen is good if it is from an dog of a proven performance, had all the traits you want, that was known to produce well, one that you had gone and seen for yourself - but semen for the sake of it I'm not so sure

Yeah getting a proven dog is important. Quick had sired 3 litters before I imported him and the German system allows assessment via test results but most importantly I had a good contact in Germany to look at dogs for me and assist in the process.

That part is the hardest part about importing dogs/semen, assessing dogs from half way around the world.

Originally Posted by RCGSP

Yeah getting a proven dog is important. Quick had sired 3 litters before I imported him and the German system allows assessment via test results but most importantly I had a good contact in Germany to look at dogs for me and assist in the process.

That part is the hardest part about importing dogs/semen, assessing dogs from half way around the world.

thats what i was talking with ruff about (off forum) ,, that would be the hardest part

Originally Posted by RCGSP

Yeah getting a proven dog is important. Quick had sired 3 litters before I imported him and the German system allows assessment via test results but most importantly I had a good contact in Germany to look at dogs for me and assist in the process.

That part is the hardest part about importing dogs/semen, assessing dogs from half way around the world.

thats the biggest issue, my next import is going to be a young pup, from a sire i want and a bitch line i'm familiar with.

I was about to say the cockers have plenty of support too. Good luck with the new imports kawhia!

Is there much difference between the Cocker and Springer in both temperament and work

springers are bigger, eat more, pretty boring to look at and supposed to be easier to train, a springer will bash cover just for the hell of it.
cockers are smaller, eat less, look better {esp when eyewiping there bigger cousins}, absolute cunts to train {not} and so long as there something to chase inside enjoy cover.

both types should have a typical spaniel temp.