Thread: importing Frozen Semen i

The stuff behind the planned mating of Cmores will give you a distant double up of Line and Woody, if they are dogs you liked, and if that was a direction you wanted to go.
Why not use your dog as the outcross and put it back to NZ lines since he is out of Warrior?
Or even better, why not do both and see which works?

I would like to but am clueless on breeding hence my asking for advice .I would very much like to see more Setters around and about for sure .Woody was a fantastic dog that I watched compete plenty -a true champion !!

And according to most, no-one else could handle him except for his second owner, NZs greatest P&S handler ever...
Going by the NZKC site blackfield kennels has NZ stuff, have you approached him? Considering there are only a few setter people here, and used the word clueless, why don't you get in contact with the other setter guys, Hendren, Allen etc? Your dog may be of use to them

Yes , I haven't spoken to Noel for years and I don't think he is trialing anymore although I believe Ian is and will see him at the up and coming trial.
Woodys second handler was Noel -I believe Leon was the best ever handler of Woody as he made him up did he not ?

Noel had woody first I believe, passed him on in hi first year? Mortenson straightened him out and made him up, and when he passed on Noel took him back. It seems that the only one who could handle him, and run him to his best, was Leon. I had a well-known triallist tell me that they would pull their dogs out if they knew woody was running, when he was unbeatable.

Talk to those guys, there isn't anyone left alive who could be of more help to you really, they know the breed inside out. Stay out of the politics and good luck whichever way you go!

Originally Posted by kawhia

forget here bro.
there is only a limited number of breeding bitches and by the sound of it that number is halved because of personal differences.
that litter of skids has been in the pipeline for 2-3 years so i wouldn't hold ya breath on that one ethier.
if you are keen look towards oz and bring something in.

the day Leon passed away there became a split in NZ english setter people, its a fucking shame as a Gus x Line litter would have been good to see

do you think the quality of these pointers and setters we had in nz in the heydays really were that great if they died out within a generation after the death of a few pillars.
if it wasn't for the introduction of the versatile breeds i reckon the pointer setter scene would be a different story.

Originally Posted by Pointer

Noel had woody first I believe, passed him on in hi first year? Mortenson straightened him out and made him up, and when he passed on Noel took him back. It seems that the only one who could handle him, and run him to his best, was Leon. I had a well-known triallist tell me that they would pull their dogs out if they knew woody was running, when he was unbeatable.

Talk to those guys, there isn't anyone left alive who could be of more help to you really, they know the breed inside out. Stay out of the politics and good luck whichever way you go!

your correct ,I do remember Noel did have him first. Man that dog was a machine.Ive never understood the politics in dogging especially white against red

Originally Posted by upnorth uplander

the day Leon passed away there became a split in NZ english setter people, its a fucking shame as a Gus x Line litter would have been good to see

what happened to cause this rift and what was the outcome

I was just looking up Frank Tommy on the net and found myself and 'INTI' born BEBETO

The Progeny of Lapphaugen's H. Moulin

Originally Posted by el borracho

your correct, I do remember Noel did have him first. Man that dog was a machine.Ive never understood the politics in dogging especially white against red

I agree, a good dog is a good dog, I like seeing all the pointing breeds go and go well. long haired or short, wiry, red, white, spotted, black or blue. A good dog speaks for itself

Im just chatting with Noel about setters

Having jus had a chat with Noel Allen for an hour Im quite excited by his young puppy bitch that Ian Hendren bred .Noel commented how intelligent this pup is showing itself to be and has intentions if all goes well of using Woody's stored semen for it to create another super Setter -one for me for sure !

Excellent news!

How many here own English Setters - I own one