Thread: Pointer and Setter Trials

Even if I wear tweed?

I like the most competitive people as they bring such a high skill set into the arena to make their mark .If there was groaning in the trial scene it would always be about these type of individuals who keep succeeding. One will note the ones that fail to do well consistently have a more laid back attitude to it all and that will often show through in the results over long term .

One must remember these are contest to "prove" both man -woman and animal and if comments are said of any competitor on a forum or to their face as long as not said in a vicious negative manner and constantly to put down someone they are worth hearing for ones growth and for others growth -otherwise some people don't recognize they live in fairy land .

Mind you some are also there for the social side of it for themselves and there dogs which is just fine too
Dougie , lovely animal no doubt about that but if you are interested in Bird dogging I would suggest you get a bird dog or a continental for mutli purpose task including hunting and ripping faces off LOL

If you wore Tweed you could get a special pass to run your sheep herder on birds -maybe

Originally Posted by el borracho

Dougie , lovely animal no doubt about that but if you are interested in Bird dogging I would suggest you get a bird dog or a continental for mutli purpose task including hunting and ripping faces off LOL

Read my first post muppet - going to spy on some trials to see if I do want to get into bird hunting (and get probably a Vizsla as that's what the hubby likes) otherwise I will stick with a Mali and take on the challenge of training it on deer.

haha Dougie in a Tweed Ghille suit spying mmm could work!!

yes the faces are getting older for sure ! I am about to turn 50 -I feel so young though and it is because I compete always and am without children thank god !!

I love the whole UK scene with its huge depth of history around the sport , the dress code that adds respect to the sport and the common camaraderie one finds in dog people .

I am sure most have seen the "Hunter" gummys the poms wear -the Chinese have now knocked them off for less than a quarter of the price to buy them here in NZ -the Whare house has them under the logo MAMBO -not bad

travelling up north for 7-8 days of trialling and only having 1-2 finds for the entire time is a complete waste of time , I would rather spend the time and money on real hunting

The fact they had few finds is a shame as the north is known for birds but I suspect on private land like you are able to access Z .One cannot give up though even with such let down staring you in the face -the sport must go on or we will loose enthusiast who have the balls to spend big on behalf of those that enjoy this very noble sport -I thank you big spenders

i have enjoyed the few pointer setter trials i have been too, the fact i know most from other dog events is good as i only really go to watch the dogs run and to catch up with mates.......... do plan on attending a few more and will run a pup or two in the future.

i really rate the live game spaniel trials, running a dog or just being the gun some great people are involved in the sport.

for versatiles i do prefer the natural testing and non competion tests, and i would love to see them progress into a live game format similar to the spaniels.

surprising enough the only bitch fighting and politics i have encountered was within the nzvhdta, however a few spaniel agm's appear to be a gloves off vent lol......................... i think the time is right to actually up grand a few of the trial formats.

Kawhia , it was very nice meeting you the other day at the trial , Its good to talk to people that know there stuff.
I hope you run a pup or two for sure, maybe Ill have one before long that Ill be running .
Ive been out running my dog dog in the park tonight quartering and getting him steady on command -he always want to sit when I give him his "wait" command which he needs to adhere to around the traps.
I think it will be very interesting to see how long it takes me to get him back functioning like a trial dog quartering a even pattern and being steady to shot .
Interesting at the last trial when he pissed off up the course and didnt listen to his come whistle -the only thing that turned him was the gun -he loves the gun and ran back to see what he had missed when it went off -lil shit

Zharn raises a good point regarding Trials grounds. Any of these dog Trials are so dependent on good quality ground with a reasonable level of game. P&S, much like NZVHDTA are more dependent on the generosity of Preserves than say Spaniels.

The other issue is the age of many Trialists....a lot more young blood is required to support the existing foundation members.

the level of game all round is an issue for many trials, preserves have provided a welcome level of game to hold trials, but i really feel it's a reflection of the poor handling of our wild game bird resource for it to be that way......... even finding rabbits can be hard even for spaniels.
having a bird dog is made harder when you don't have the wild game to run them on between trials........ the two go hand in hand.

if we are to improve the sport here we must look to the uk and take note that keepered land with released bird populations is the future.

Originally Posted by kawhia

the level of game all round is an issue for many trials, preserves have provided a welcome level of game to hold trials, but i really feel it's a reflection of the poor handling of our wild game bird resource for it to be that way......... even finding rabbits can be hard even for spaniels.
having a bird dog is made harder when you don't have the wild game to run them on between trials........ the two go hand in hand.

if we are to improve the sport here we must look to the uk and take note that keepered land with released bird populations is the future.

Yup, I would have been fucked if I didn't have birds to run on straight off the back deck of my old place.

[QUOTE=kawhia;39817]the level of game all round is an issue for many trials, preserves have provided a welcome level of game to hold trials, but i really feel it's a reflection of the poor handling of our wild game bird resource for it to be that way......... even finding rabbits can be hard even for spaniels.
having a bird dog is made harder when you don't have the wild game to run them on between trials........ the two go hand in hand.

if we are to improve the sport here we must look to the uk and take note that keepered land with released bird populations is the future.[/QUOTE]

is this done on private property in the UK

[QUOTE=upnorth uplander;39824]

Originally Posted by kawhia

the level of game all round is an issue for many trials, preserves have provided a welcome level of game to hold trials, but i really feel it's a reflection of the poor handling of our wild game bird resource for it to be that way......... even finding rabbits can be hard even for spaniels.
having a bird dog is made harder when you don't have the wild game to run them on between trials........ the two go hand in hand.

if we are to improve the sport here we must look to the uk and take note that keepered land with released bird populations is the future.[/QUOTE]

is this done on private property in the UK

the uk is mostly private property.