Thread: Pointer and Setter Trials

El B,
I don't know Failte's pedigree but I presume there's imported blood in there just one generation back so the retrieving should be in there to some degree already.

des.

Hi Des , only my lack of input toward the retrieve holding up the game plan to be honest !!! here is failte's breeding

Holes in a five generation pedigree would worry me, El B!!!!!

holes you say, there was an abbreviation in them that i deleted .."LBA" pretty sure it stands for lazy bloody handler.........

Have you got any fotos of Queen...she shows up quite a bit on the dam's side...

none myself but i did just find this

Johnny Geoghegan – LEFANTA | The English Setter Club of Ireland

Some interesting stuff about the Lefanta lines

Heegaards V Kody was imported from one of Denmark's leading setter breeder/handlers. His father Sletthallens Knock-Out was bred on two US imports by using frozen semen from legendary stud Equimark. Mother Heegaards II Randi is a mix of Danish/Swedish/Finnish/Norwegian lines.
Storeskar's G Snorre was Geoghegan's superb import from Norway. He was behind Woody imported to NZ. Storeskar's II Odin was a later import from the same kennel but not in the same league as Snorre. Behind Odin there's some blood from the Italian Dianella kennel but it turned out fairly disappointing. Perhaps not very good individuals because I've seen a lot of very appealing setters from that kennel. Behind both of the Storeskar dogs you again find the US import Equimark. He is also found behind my Norwegian import Moulin, through her grand-sire Sletthallens Raijo and behind Earl Bonnar's import Gus on maternal side.

Holes in a five generation pedigree would worry me, El B!!!!!

The Irish kennel Club only work on a three genreation pedigree when registering.

I'm not sure where the foundation for the comment that Odin was less of a success comes from. Johnny decided that he wasn't going to miss his young daughter growing up and had more or less decided to retire form trialling so Odin was used a few times and then re-exported when he did decide to retire. I'm sure had Johnny decided to stick at it Odin would have been as much of a success, if not more.

Apart from H'gaards Kody back I have seen or run against nearly all the dogs in the last three generations and quite a few further back as well. Hardly surprising you have a good'un.

Yes Des ,I agree she a goodin and only the daily city regime of work and lack of time would be the reason if she doesn't produce some good wins rather than her breeding which looks first class. Johnny appears to have been a very good breeder and its a loss that he went to the bigger earning grey hounds !

Under gggg, colum on the right end down towards 3/4 mark it says lord of the rings. Is that the dogs name or the owners name?

All dog names @Toby

Then I have to say those are some stupid names for dogs but whatever floats there boat

Pedigree names @Toby , usually not call name
Eg my pointer "danny of riverbend", you know him as patch

Originally Posted by des oneile

I'm not sure where the foundation for the comment that Odin was less of a success comes from. Johnny decided that he wasn't going to miss his young daughter growing up and had more or less decided to retire form trialling so Odin was used a few times and then re-exported when he did decide to retire. I'm sure had Johnny decided to stick at it Odin would have been as much of a success, if not more.

Well, that's more speculation on your part than on mine. For a start Odin was not as well bred as Snorre was, not by a long shot! Even so, Snorre had a greater impact at stud than anyone in Norway could have imagined. That Odin should in any way replicate that was probably wishful thinking..