Thread: Pointer and Setter Trials

my take on a HPR trial is a down the line pigeon trial with a water retrieve added to it, any other ideas ???

HPR would need a tracking element also.Why not run them through GSP club?
Run with it! now matter how you start it will just develop--it dont have to be a polished diamond to start with

Originally Posted by upnorth uplander

my take on a HPR trial is a down the line pigeon trial with a water retrieve added to it, any other ideas ???

That's the starting format. Ultimately I hope it will be a shooting trial on pheasants and hares/rabbits with a water retrieve added.

Originally Posted by el borracho

HPR would need a tracking element also.Why not run them through GSP club?
Run with it! now matter how you start it will just develop--it dont have to be a polished diamond to start with

I think a tracking section is a waste of time. In my experience, any track a human can lay is extremely easy for any half decent dog to complete and it ends up taking up loads of time and real estate to lay the tracks.

I'm not sure of a way to do it but I would like to see it be a part of the format eventually if a decent solution can be developed. For the time being it isn't included.

Originally Posted by el borracho

Why not run them through GSP club?

It is

i havnt been involved with the club for years, do they still run HPR club trials , i cant remember tracking being a part of the HPR trials we ran

Originally Posted by upnorth uplander

i havnt been involved with the club for years, do they still run HPR club trials , i cant remember tracking being a part of the HPR trials we ran

They haven't been run in a long time.

You can talk about it in theory all you want.

I'd rather get out and run dogs and have fun then decide where to go from there. Who cares if it's not the perfect format? It's good to get dogs out working. Screw NZGTA or whoever recognition, I just want to run dogs. Recognition can come in time if warranted.

I talked to Bob about it on monday when I took Quick down to show him.

The details for the trial have just been sent out. Sept 23rd in Auckland.

Kawhia, do you have anything positive to put forward

Originally Posted by upnorth uplander

Kawhia, do you have anything positive to put forward

do you ?

if what i'm saying is termed negative then i really can't help you....... read into it how ever you like.

Originally Posted by kawhia

do you ?

if what i'm saying is termed negative then i really can't help you....... read into it how ever you like.

i already have

good luck with it.

i think our end goal to hold live game trials is the same, but our approach to do so is where we differ on the matter.

ill be there ,better wear cushions in ya behind areas cause ill be kicken ass

Originally Posted by kawhia

good luck with it.

i think our end goal to hold live game trials is the same, but our approach to do so is where we differ on the matter.

You have to start somewhere. This is something we can actually pull off right now, not a theoretical future if all the stars align.

Originally Posted by el borracho

ill be there ,better wear cushions in ya behind areas cause ill be kicken ass

The trial is at the SAGDC grounds which are really good. Should be a good time if nothing else.

with the state of trialing in general best come all!

Sounds negative to me. You are just criticizing what is happening.

You can sit back and criticize or you can come out and support what we are trying to do. I've told you many times this is the first step. We need to show that there is interest then there is progress. Sitting there and preaching on the ideal isn't going to accomplish anything. The shooting spaniel trials didn't come up out of the blue, there was an established pigeon trial format first.

The existing pigeon trial format showed that there was an existing body of dogs capable of competing. With the low numbers of HPRs competing in PS trials there is no confidence that there is a qualified group of dogs out there to even run. Honestly I doubt it myself.

In the natural game trials this weekend I have the only versatiles running. With that kind of participation you want to up and run a shooting natural game trial and expect it to work? Good luck.

We need to hold basic events like this and have good turnouts to demonstrate that there are the dogs out there to run. You can sit back and complain that it's not the ideal or you can help out but I'm done with talking about it. Time to do something.