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    Im teaching my 10 week old pup "UT" (because his name is Beau, too close to no) with a firm voice and HE gets it. When he chews on power cords "UT". When he chews on the coffee table "UT". When he chews on the couch "UT". When he bites my hand "UT" then he stops biting me. That proves there is no confusion he realises he cant do that and stops. I haven't had him a week and he gets the jist. Don't over analyse it.
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    The relationship must be extraordinary.
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    EeBee....

    J'aime un coeur tendre......?

    I like tender hearts???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twoshotkill View Post
    EeBee....

    J'aime un coeur tendre......?

    I like tender hearts???
    Yes! Twoshotkill, I abhor meanness.
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    Wirehunt, doing something anti-social, really...!!! If he wants to clean his finger nails with the butterknife....well, who are we to question...UT UT UT!!!
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    I guess it would be determined by what the behaviour is doing to you...if you sought advice, was given it and used it and it worked, well, it is a proven solution for that behaviour. One thing our dogs are and that is they are haphazard and pretty hopeless mind readers... If the solution was not proven, then your advisor is incorrect and you have tried to use an invalid or purposeless solution...in which case the only member of the triage which is going to be more confused is the poor dog.
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    I knew you would disagree, goes without saying. I thought the question was what corrective action should be taken with the command NO, how to teach what NO means...this has been a cool thread...tangled and messy but interesting. It is, as you say, confusing when there are a whole wodge of negative tones and commands...thats when the dogs ears turn off...which brings us to that mystical self-hunting problem...too many commands, too much whistle blowing...the recall, it doesnt work, then the stop, it doesnt work...dog sticks middle claw in air and cranks the gears up...the respect factor wasnt taught first because so many of us want a dog fully trained and mechanical by six months old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EeeBees View Post
    I knew you would disagree, goes without saying. I thought the question was what corrective action should be taken with the command NO, how to teach what NO means...this has been a cool thread...tangled and messy but interesting. It is, as you say, confusing when there are a whole wodge of negative tones and commands...thats when the dogs ears turn off...which brings us to that mystical self-hunting problem...too many commands, too much whistle blowing...the recall, it doesnt work, then the stop, it doesnt work...dog sticks middle claw in air and cranks the gears up...the respect factor wasnt taught first because so many of us want a dog fully trained and mechanical by six months old.
    Instead of preparing the preposition... read what was said.... You can;t teach what NO means... it's a dog. You are still crediting a dog with more thinking power than the universe endowed it with. Vicci. Let's make it simple... we can battle bullshit on a forum day in and day out.... what say we actually front up... you bring a dog, I'll bring a dog, we can invite forum members to attend, I know several who will... let's just front up with some dogs and run them together, see who has serious hounds, correct control without inhibition and just put this to sleep. I find the online argument to be tedious to be frank... i reckon if we just run some dogs, the point of it all, in front of people who can give considered opinion, we could have much more fruitful discussion in future, discussion that will benefit others trying to train dogs, all it takes is for us to run a couple of hounds together... we're not putting man on the moon, just running dogs. If you're right it'll show, if I'm right it'll show, let's stop pissing each other off and just run some dogs, one of us might have an edge... it is what the spectators want to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruff View Post
    Instead of preparing the preposition... read what was said.... You can;t teach what NO means... it's a dog. You are still crediting a dog with more thinking power than the universe endowed it with. Vicci. Let's make it simple... we can battle bullshit on a forum day in and day out.... what say we actually front up... you bring a dog, I'll bring a dog, we can invite forum members to attend, I know several who will... let's just front up with some dogs and run them together, see who has serious hounds, correct control without inhibition and just put this to sleep. I find the online argument to be tedious to be frank... i reckon if we just run some dogs, the point of it all, in front of people who can give considered opinion, we could have much more fruitful discussion in future, discussion that will benefit others trying to train dogs, all it takes is for us to run a couple of hounds together... we're not putting man on the moon, just running dogs. If you're right it'll show, if I'm right it'll show, let's stop pissing each other off and just run some dogs, one of us might have an edge... it is what the spectators want to see.
    Cool, lets do this!! When and how??!!
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    Yes!!!!! What Ruff said!!!!!!!
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    I dunno, yu sort it out, you seem to have the biggest issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruff View Post
    I dunno, yu sort it out, you seem to have the biggest issue.

    you so crack me up, Man!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EeeBees View Post
    you so crack me up, Man!!!!!
    Good, I like making people laugh. You believe, wrongly, i will counter anything you say... that is not the case, and I can prove it... just say one thing regarding dog behavior and training that I agree with and you will see me say so.

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    I teach my dog very little,, turn ,stop, fetch and come. I use a tonal arghh arggh if I dont like an action theyre doing - basic and effective . the only thing i have failed on is with my dog in blind cover at trials willfully hunting for himself . I dont know that is a battle I can ever win with many years of absent training
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tussock View Post
    Me and Wirehunt have already done it today. With 11 dogs
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