Thread: What sort of cast do you want from your dog...

Originally Posted by Petros_mk

more than one way to skin a cat bro...

read Munseys question again Pete.

its pretty simple zharn....
What you said earlier "Change of direction whistle"... There is that which you can use. All I am saying is that you don't always need that.

If your dog is paying attention to you and keeps track of your movement (and they should) then they will follow you.
If they are far out where you don't want him to be just go the opposite direction and he should follow. At least Aki does for me.... Avoids whistling and yelling...
Its natural for a dog to always stay in front of you, turn your back against him he'll come in front again.

you are still describing how to train a dog to quarter

so whats the change of direction whistle for?
woukd be good to elaborate on ur method...

Originally Posted by Munsey

Without too much detail , but how do you dictate the distance of cast ie whistle and hand signal?

cast your dog off, when it has reached the desired distance you either hit it with a stop or change of direction whistle, if the dog turns and you think the cast is too short you hit it with a stop whistle and send it on again.

we'll ask you for a demo when we get up north

I need to be refreshed on the fish retrieve too

as mentioned terrain dependent is what a desirable cast length will be for most . i my myself dont give a toss as long as i can see him the bigger the more exciting and less ground i need to cover--as long as the dog isnt self hunting ! ie he turns and cast back to you i think its just personal preference and how much you trust your mutt .the working partnership is a highway not a caldersack --you gotta keep workin on it if changing terrain- unless of course your dog is perfect

Munsey to answer your question, As UU said if he's too far turn him. If he is too close and therefore missing ground or habitually short casting on one side, stop him, and send him back out.

Eeebees, I want a dog that fills any space you give it. As mentioned above, if the ground treatment is relevant to terrain there is no such thing as too big

Good to see you are still alive & well el b, been quiet with out you

Originally Posted by Petros_mk

we'll ask you for a demo when we get up north

I need to be refreshed on the fish retrieve too

I will give you a demo when I get a new pointer pup. Untill your dog retrieves everything you shoot then I wouldnt comment about someone elses training method especially when that persons dog actually retrieves

im always gonna comment on the fish retrieve...

Originally Posted by upnorth uplander

Good to see you are still alive & well el b, been quiet with out you

its been to hot to waer tweed as of late so i just shut my trap until next season where ill be bigger than TEXAS on the forum once again --where the f..ks ruff

Originally Posted by el borracho

its been to hot to waer tweed as of late so i just shut my trap until next season where ill be bigger than TEXAS on the forum once again --where the f..ks ruff

El B it is about time you organised another long range shoot out at South Head. Happy Christmas by the way.

Originally Posted by Pointer

Munsey to answer your question, As UU said if he's too far turn him. If he is too close and therefore missing ground or habitually short casting on one side, stop him, and send him back out.

Eeebees, I want a dog that fills any space you give it. As mentioned above, if the ground treatment is relevant to terrain there is no such thing as too big

I agree, Pointer. Re the dog missing ground...its an interesting one...a dog can work in a busy fashion but is he really doing the work he needs to...does prey drive come into this, I suggest it does. If a puppy is missing ground that is one thing, but an experienced dog is another...how much ground is missing ground (I guess again it is the terrain) but how much ground is too much ground? If that ground is not holding birds, or there are no birds, can and/or should the dog be remonstrated (or at least corrected) for missing ground?

Originally Posted by Rushy

El B it is about time you organised another long range shoot out at South Head. Happy Christmas by the way.

hey Rushy yep well do that next year for sure !!happy xmas to you also \