Thread: American pit bull dog or cross

I partly agree with you, probably more than partly. they are a very dangerous dog as a general rule, its unfortunate that mostly the type of people that own them are shitheads, (gangsters, tough guy pretend gangstas ) and in such a small country you end up with really bad blood lines as these "mostly" shitheads who own them for tough wannabe dogs tend to breed the crazy dogs with the crazy bitches, so you get crazy pups with bad attitudes.

I hear that tick tick tick with any dog when there are little ones around.

I also have a pit bull staff cross. She's a sweetie. But I trust her no less or more than my other dogs as far as kids go. It's common sense really.

I've met far too many maladjusted dogs due to maladjusted owners

Other halfs nephew has two pitbulls they were bought up around kids and if you walk into the back yard with them be prepared to be licked to death and have them bring sticks and balls to you to throw for them as far as I am concerned you bring up a pit bull properly let it socialize with other dogs and people and don't mistreat it they will not be aggressive. Kick the dog around and treat it like shit then you have the devil on your hands
Pit bull - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by hunter308;320239...............Kick the dog around and treat it like shit then you have the devil on your hands
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Sounds a bit like bringing up children

A dog is a powerful predator, and cabable of dealing serious damage far above its weight. Whilst I would absolutely trust either of my dogs with kids, I would never leave them unattended.

The Pittbull term is loosly slung around by the media. The vast majority of these dogs involved in maulings are from poor neighboorhoods and will without a doubt be mixed breeds. If they are muscular or light nosed then they are automatically labled pitt bulls. In fact the last couple of reported attacks were mastiff crosses, not pitties at all.

So to say that a pittbull cannot be trusted hands down, and that the only good pittbull is a dead pittbull is disingenious and does not serve anyone. I would challenge you 257 to meet my pittbull then walk away with the same attitude.

A properly socialised pittbull bought up and managed by an experienced owner is no more or less dangerous than any other powerfull dog. The bitches were for a time actually known as the 'nanny' dogs and were very popular family dogs in the early years of the breed. In fact Teddy Roosevelt had 2. I personally think that the bitches make much better pets and tend to be a bit softer and easier to manage.

of course if you go and get a game bred male and throw it into a pack situation its going to try fight its way up the pile, starting with the weakest member of the pack. (kids)

they are not a breed, it is a generic type.

The term is used as a generic type, but pittbulls (American Pitt Bull Terriers) are an internationally recognised breed.

American staff is the pit bull is not.... although they are from the same stock.
for it to a breed it would need a general set of standards and a closed stud book.... size and weight wise they come from very small to almost mastiff size.
it's one of the reasons they have been so hard to get rid of in many countries.

Originally Posted by Nick-D

The term is used as a generic type, but pittbulls (American Pitt Bull Terriers) are an internationally recognised breed.

If you can find a qualified vet that is willing to tell you what the blood lines are for a Pitbull terrier, hang onto him/her.

Originally Posted by kawhia

American staff is the pit bull is not.... although they are from the same stock.
for it to a breed it would need a general set of standards and a closed stud book.... size and weight wise they come from very small to almost mastiff size.
it's one of the reasons they have been so hard to get rid of in many countries.

Absolutely man, Like most breeds they are highly variable, although many of the breed varients are not recognised. The same can be said for just about any breed of dog though.
Love amstaffs, typically are bigger dogs than most AKC recognised APBT's

AKC Breeds - Complete Breed List

nope couldn't find them, maybe the UKC register which will register anything for a fee.

Originally Posted by kawhia

AKC Breeds - Complete Breed List

nope couldn't find them, maybe the UKC register which will register anything for a fee.

Yeah you are right. I was under the impression that the AKC recognised them as a seperate breed, but it appears that only the UKC does.

From my understanding the bloodlines are seperate from the staffordshire bloodlines, obviously the AKC doesnt think so

with pitbulls it is the arousal threshold,there will be exceptions, but within this 'breed', this appears relatively low. mastiffs have a protective instinct coupled with alpha dog instinct, which around children,can have consequences.girls with high pitched screams can trigger predator instincts.these two types of dogs should have red flags,that plus uncontrolled breeding by halfwit owners, is probably at the root of most of the dog problems.(imbecile owners aside).

Originally Posted by Nick-D

Yeah you are right. I was under the impression that the AKC recognised them as a seperate breed, but it appears that only the UKC does.

From my understanding the bloodlines are seperate from the staffordshire bloodlines, obviously the AKC doesnt think so

gamebred pitbulls have a pretty long linage like it's cousin the American bulldog, they were keep pretty uniform and differents types developed in many southern states, from which I think the jeep and sorells lines came from, some of those were the first imported to nz right from the get go cross breeding to English and staffs was pretty common to fulfil the huge demand at the time.
I've met some pretty placid pitbulls both here and over seas, what I do know is some of the bad arse fighting pits I've seen were absolute marshmellows around people so go figure.

My mates Dogue De Bourdeauxs where pretty good at getting his goats in a paddock, not sure about their stamima on the hills. They cleaned up well I think we found just a hoof left once.