Thread: Books on dog training dogs for deer???

Originally Posted by Gibo

PM me you email address Two Shoot I have something on email you may want to read.

Could you do the same for me mate?

Originally Posted by Bavarian_Hunter

Could you do the same for me mate?

Mate I had a look at what it was and its by the author that Phil attached earlier in the thread.
Herb Spannagl THE DEER INDICATOR DOG
Versatile Hunting Dog Test ASSN (NZ)

Wow heaps of info there peoples...Thanks

To answer wirehunt

The problems i am having is not what i want it to do but how to stop it from doing the things i dont want it to do.

I have got him heeling primo plus the standard sit stay etc around my own property but when he is in public or the bush it is a totaly different story and he is almost a totaly different dog with a hearing problem and no regard for choker chains.

I think the biggest problem is that i have only had him for a month and he is now 14 months old so at home he does what i want (and amazingly well) but anywhere else and i am having to get him out of old habits that the previous owner has allowed him to do.

When he gets excited he starts to bark and i cant seem to stop this.

Don't worry about the choker chain. Basic train him. He needs to learn to stop. That's it. That is your life until he does. Nothing else.
Then you can move onto other stuff. At a guess he's one of those dogs that's fine if his head is level with your knee, but if he gets a half a head in front he goes?

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

Don't worry about the choker chain. Basic train him. He needs to learn to stop. That's it. That is your life until he does. Nothing else.
Then you can move onto other stuff. At a guess he's one of those dogs that's fine if his head is level with your knee, but if he gets a half a head in front he goes?

How do i teach the "stop"???

Originally Posted by Tussock

More time! Can't undo 14 months in a month. Sounds like he is going really well. Just gradually introduce more exciting stimulating environments and avoid losing control as much as you can. No point practicing mistakes. That's what I would do anyway.

Good advice... Think im mabe expecting too much too soon???

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

At a guess he's one of those dogs that's fine if his head is level with your knee, but if he gets a half a head in front he goes?

Not so much he seems to slowly creep and once he is out of lead reach he is off. If the lead is on him it is always at max tension.

Originally Posted by Tussock

Just gradually introduce more exciting stimulating environments and avoid losing control as much as you can

Had a good chuckle at that one

Walk along with him in tight, stop regularly with the same stop command every time. Walk 10 metres, stop, walk another 2 and stop, walk 50 and stop. Critical to use the same command every time. By voice for a while, then introduce hand then whistle.

Once he is smoking that bring out the longline, tie it to your nice wide belt. Walk him in the short lead at first and do a few stops, then unclip the short and keep doing the stops (long lead dragging behind and best done in a grassy park ). If he legs it batten down, when that rope runs out give the stop command. Then back to step one.

or teach him to sit........... then get him to sit at a distance.

Originally Posted by kawhia

there are a few books availble from the uk by guy wallace, covers alot in easy speak........ alot not relevent for our situation too.

The Versatile Gundog - Guy Wallace. | Trade Me

buy it from amazon...... the guy selling it did.

Originally Posted by Twoshotkill

The problems i am having is not what i want it to do but how to stop it from doing the things i dont want it to do.

well you stop it from doing the things it wants to do ,,,, by making it do the things you what it to do ... the dog does not want to please you, it wants to please itself

don't correct the dog for pulling the lead at max tension , you need to correct it the second it slow creeps

Originally Posted by Twoshotkill

Not so much he seems to slowly creep and once he is out of lead reach he is off. If the lead is on him it is always at max tension.

is your dog a pointer of some kind ??

Originally Posted by Kaimaicockher

is your dog a pointer of some kind ??

Yes..... Viszla

Nice head, Twoshotkill, Vizsla is handsome too!!