Thread: Call that a dog? Are there any...?

Half in jest, I'm considering getting another dog to protect me in my declining years and I came across two varieties I've not heard of before.

I'm curious to find out, if anyone knows of them, in NZ?


Swedish Elkhound - Jämthund - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jämthund



and

Karelian Bear Dog - Karjalankarhukoira - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karelian_Bear_Dog

Serious question, not a dig, but why these breeds ?
I mean German Shepherd, Rottie, Dobie, etc
Get one from a good working bloodline and you’re done
Totally understand if it’s a project, I have far too many of those things myself

Female ridgeback will suit our climate better and have twice the endurance of the breeds you mention

Tough as iron and loyal till death

Originally Posted by MarkN

Half in jest, I'm considering getting another dog to protect me in my declining years and I came across two varieties I've not heard of before.

I'm curious to find out, if anyone knows of them, in NZ?


Swedish Elkhound - Jämthund - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jämthund

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and

Karelian Bear Dog - Karjalankarhukoira - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karelian_Bear_Dog

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Wasn't even aware that 'self protection' was an option in NZ. Must be something new.

Originally Posted by 7mmsaum

Female ridgeback will suit our climate better and have twice the endurance of the breeds you mention

Tough as iron and loyal till death

I can vouch for that. Had one a few years back now and was one of the most loving yet fierce dog I have ever owned. Scandinavian breeds don't do well in the summer over here. It frustrates the hell out of me when I see so many huskies being paraded around as fashion accessories.

corgi pretty loyal solid and a big bark , also you cant run without ankles .
Also I think with the smaller breeds you can pick them up as you get older and weaker

Rottie no question . . stay away from exotics

Originally Posted by m101a1

Attachment 223544 corgi pretty loyal solid and a big bark , also you cant run without ankles .
Also I think with the smaller breeds you can pick them up as you get older and weaker

...is that the key to your safe around his neck??

Brilliant idea

Pretty hard to argue against that, but then again I am pretty biased

Any dog will "protect" you but I guess if you mean you want an attack dog that's a different matter. I have viewed all my dogs ( even the 65Kg Rottie bitch I had ), as an early warning system so I can get ready to "meet" the "visitors"

Originally Posted by rossi.45

Rottie no question . . stay away from exotics

Mark, just wondering how many menacing dogs you have had in the past
If menacing dog owner is not experienced or competent enough, the dog could become a liability.

I agreed with M101a1 statement
"... I think with the smaller breeds you can pick them up as you get older and weaker."


When I was a kid, my parent used to have rottie and GSD, both were very protective but Rottie was something else.

My malamute crossed (Bean - see pic) is super friendly to anybody during the day but at night,
he is in the opposite mode, he is alert and howls at suspicious persons or activities
I'm glad I picked him instead of Dobbie.
In saying that, I will get my Dobbie one day when I'm ready.

for the life of you dont end up with a husky because they are close enough, Im yet to meet one thats not a problem

Happy with my Mal and pleased with the size for portability in vehicles ect

The Elk Hounds are nice dogs, but not super smart from what I have seen. Why not get the Bear and not the Bear Hound, he is all ear tagged and ready to go, be more of a deterrent than any dog.

A German Shepard would be my pick, they are super bonded and loyal to their owner, can live inside and out, so can patrol a fenced property at night, smart and can tell the difference between friend and foe. Need to get one from a good line as some show lines are ruined https://www.heisenberg.co.nz/

Belgian Mallinois (sp) IF you have heaps of time/experience and patience.

Originally Posted by Bill999

for the life of you dont end up with a husky because they are close enough, Im yet to meet one thats not a problem

Happy with my Mal and pleased with the size for portability in vehicles ect

Owned (and bred) huskies for 13 years. Totally agree. I love them still but they are a special breed. A handfull to own and very hard on other livestock. Unless you are racing them in harness its not a good breed for a house dog. Of all the litters we bred i think only 1/2 dozen made it too old age and not the dogs fault.
Getting a dog for protection is totally the wrong reason to have a dog. Not to mention if it munches anything then the local council will make your life very difficult and expensive regardless of who was at fault

Thanks for all the replies, I think I was more interested in whether or not these breeds were here.

Yes I've had a pair, of pig dog, sisters, about 20 years ago. Great girls.

I'm possibly going for a mutt/Corgi.

Though the Karjalankarhukoira looks keen.