Thread: Is the Deer Dog Blueprint any good?

@BobbyP agree with what has been written above, blueprint useful to get the basics down. Mixing in kids etc def took the edge of the discipline but she and I both learned enough to get started in the hills. I reckon as long as you have a good sit, recall and some degree of range control can’t go too wrong.

Main issue with being a family pet is she will take liberties with getting up on couches and sneaking into beds. Still miles better behaved than most of the pooches we meet on our walks tho which I will credit to some to the lessons from the BP for. Even if you just do the monthly payment for a month or two and watch through the videos you can pick up a lot.


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Originally Posted by Jake77

@BobbyP agree with what has been written above, blueprint useful to get the basics down. Mixing in kids etc def took the edge of the discipline but she and I both learned enough to get started in the hills. I reckon as long as you have a good sit, recall and some degree of range control can’t go too wrong.

Main issue with being a family pet is she will take liberties with getting up on couches and sneaking into beds. Still miles better behaved than most of the pooches we meet on our walks tho which I will credit to some to the lessons from the BP for. Even if you just do the monthly payment for a month or two and watch through the videos you can pick up a lot.


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Hahaha yeah the Mrs was letting the dog onto the bed but I've managed to stop that and now the dog knows not to go up onto beds or couches. I hear what you're saying about most dogs not having any discipline and it's clear that most owners do not put any real level of effort into training their animals

our wee pup Poppie is doing something rather weird which I BELIEVE I can use to my advantage...she will be romping around like a loopy visla and if we put a jacket/doggy T on her,its like she has taken a chill pill,take it off and the loopy switch goes back on...we have done it half a dozen times with the same result.
Im thinking when I do get on to taking her bush,a T shirt vest will be worn when in serious,find a deer mode is on..then take it off,telling her OK to goof off again.... dont know if it will work but Ive seen it with SAR dogs with a working vest.... food for thought anyway.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

our wee pup Poppie is doing something rather weird which I BELIEVE I can use to my advantage...she will be romping around like a loopy visla and if we put a jacket/doggy T on her,its like she has taken a chill pill,take it off and the loopy switch goes back on...we have done it half a dozen times with the same result.
Im thinking when I do get on to taking her bush,a T shirt vest will be worn when in serious,find a deer mode is on..then take it off,telling her OK to goof off again.... dont know if it will work but Ive seen it with SAR dogs with a working vest.... food for thought anyway.

So maybe put a vest on the dog whilst training to, hopefully, get them to associate the vest with "work"?

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

our wee pup Poppie is doing something rather weird which I BELIEVE I can use to my advantage...she will be romping around like a loopy visla and if we put a jacket/doggy T on her,its like she has taken a chill pill,take it off and the loopy switch goes back on...we have done it half a dozen times with the same result.
Im thinking when I do get on to taking her bush,a T shirt vest will be worn when in serious,find a deer mode is on..then take it off,telling her OK to goof off again.... dont know if it will work but Ive seen it with SAR dogs with a working vest.... food for thought anyway.

This is exactly what Police Dog handlers do with their tracking harness - it locks the dog into head down find the bad guy scent work. If you can tie the calmness of the coat into a deer on the deck it will reinforce the coat as "calm" time.

Thats the plan Stan..... she is still only a wee sprout so training at moment is tennis ball retrieves up in hallway (nowhere else to go but back to me with it) sitting at meal times,coming when ever we ask,crating/kenneling,being quiet/no barking...and general good manners.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

Thats the plan Stan..... she is still only a wee sprout so training at moment is tennis ball retrieves up in hallway (nowhere else to go but back to me with it) sitting at meal times,coming when ever we ask,crating/kenneling,being quiet/no barking...and general good manners.

Cheers, I'll give this a go. Any recommendations for dog vests (I've never bought one) and where to pick them up

think the Tshirt came from $2 shop.... we have a proper realdog backpack for the big dog..... no good buying anything for wee Poppy yet as she still growing like a mushroom.... hope she stops growing soon or will be a monster.

We won a Stoney Creek blaze orange dog vest. I use it on public land if not too hot because I don't want someone to shoot the dog thinking it's a pig.
The dog gets all excited if I get it out because she knows it means we're going hunting the next day.

The Blueprint talks about dogs having "situational awareness" (I think that's the term they used). You can use that to your advantage, by training so the dog knows bush = hunting, park = spaz time.

Ecollar awareness too I bet......... if I dont behave that thing will beep,then buzz then BITE....best behave myself.....

I wouldn't be able to kick the poor fella outside. If you house train him now, you wont get any puddles or barkers nests inside if he stays in.

Originally Posted by rugerman

I wouldn't be able to kick the poor fella outside. If you house train him now, you wont get any puddles or barkers nests inside if he stays in.

A good kennel with some hay or straw to sleep on is cosy as. The problem is it’s near impossible to house toilet train him now as it only ever happens in the middle of the night when we are asleep. Never does it any other time when we are awake and active. Can’t correct it if i’m asleep. My lesson is that if I ever foresee the dog being an inside dog when it’s older, I need to spend some time with it as a pup training the toilet rules of being inside.

If you take him out for a piss before going to bed, then if he pisses during the night, in the morning take him over to the piss and scold him then take him out to the area you want him to go and use the pee pee word with positive noises in that spot. Start by using the word for pee when he is going outside and heaps of praise while he's pissing ( or crapping) in that place. he will soon get the idea. Inside grumpy grumpy, outside happy happy
My last dog I got as a 2 year old and had to do the house training with as an older dog.
Of course inside dogs aren't for everyone and you can make the kennel comfortable. Where I work now the muttlies have underfloor heating in their kennels

others will have different ways to toilet train..mine is simple...drinks lots of cups of tea...my bladder is the size of a thimble...when I need a pee...outside with the dog and water the lawn...say "do the biz" and when dog does..praise... its actually a bloody handy thing ,if on trip.stop let dog out...do the biz...back in and carry on.
by the time you have taken dog out so yo ucan water the lawn 4-5 times each evening...they get the message....when they head for door and look at you...get up and take them out.... middle of night....if lucky I sleep right through once a week...normally a 2-3am pee is needed..again take the dog out...

lol actually I was gonna say I also piss on the lawn to show the dog, but my neighbours can't see into my back yard luckily
Also if you clean the piss inside with bleach it has a bit of an ammonia smell which to a dog smells a bit like piss and he will piss on the same spot next time