Thread: Is the Deer Dog Blueprint any good?

Yep mine always get toileted just before bed or kennel time. Personally I don’t believe dogs are capable of linking a scolding to an event that happened in the past regardless of whether you take them to the spot or rub said item in their face etc. Needs to be corrected in the moment so they can directly link the two. That’s my opinion based on what I have read and experienced so far - happy to have others disagree with me as i’d rather not engage in training debate - often the demise of dog sections on forums.. lol

Originally Posted by stagstalker

Yep mine always get toileted just before bed or kennel time. Personally I don’t believe dogs are capable of linking a scolding to an event that happened in the past regardless of whether you take them to the spot or rub said item in their face etc. Needs to be corrected in the moment so they can directly link the two. That’s my opinion based on what I have read and experienced so far - happy to have others disagree with me as i’d rather not engage in training debate - often the demise of dog sections on forums.. lol

100% man. If a dog has gone toilet inside, it’s your fault, nothing to do with them. You need to scold yourself, not the dog. Dogs don’t associate the telling off with what they’ve done 8 hours ago. The reason they “act guilty” or cower is based on your body language and tone. Nothing to do with them pissing inside.

yip...so taking dog out for a pee...needed or not...repeatedly gets the message across that outside is for peeing..... if you want to go one step further,put a road cone on street corner for a week,then put in your section where you want dog to pee......the urge to social network will do the rest.

Ya not wrong MD, the irony at work is pretty hard case. We have a wet floor caution sign for when the floor gets wet when it's cleaned, and you can bet that every male dog ( and the occasional female) will piss on it making the floor wet talk about a feedback loop
Of course in a hallway there aren't any other points of aim for a whizz, so the sign becomes a self fulfilling prophecy

Yeah stagstalker, I remember the shit fights that would occur in the other forums' dog section. Turned into a "my way is the right way" pissing contest. Pun always intended there are always many ways to skin a cat ( or even train a dog ) so whatever works to get what results you want, is the "best" way.

Originally Posted by rugerman

points of aim for a whizz, so the sign becomes a self fulfilling prophecy

must be why we always stop at the DOC sign at the entry to pureora (piropiro flats) ritual started by a toke miscreant now blueprinted on us

When I first started out hunting I got the book Red Deer in New Zealand by Roger Lentle and Frank Saxton. That thing was a wealth of information, there is a section in there on training deer dogs which I remember thinking would be helpful if I ever got a dog for hunting, I must dig it out now that o do take our youngest dog out a bit.

Yep about 3 seconds, about the same with horses.

My dog Lily, that I trained using the blueprint did her longest tracking job last night. Up til now all her tracking jobs have been short and I’ve seen the deer fall so know where it is.
Last night I hit a hind behind the shoulder and she ran off into the scrub. When we got to where she had been Lily instantly started tracking. No blood to start off with and no prints on the ground. I trusted the dog and let her move out. After a while there was a good amount of blood on some bushes, this continued with blood every 20-30m but hard to work out direction of travel. At one point the deer turned and went straight uphill for a while. Following Lily was really hard in the low scrub and my pack getting caught up. Eventually Lily tracked to the dead hind.
Real proud of her after that one.

Originally Posted by stug

Real proud of her after that one.

Lily is the cutest, gotta say haha, Im sure she is mean as, but a really good looking dog. What breed, header? Why do they look so different to cattle dog? One thing that puts me off it is the cost of a dog, we just dont have the funds even though we got a dog proof back yard and one of us walks 10km in the evenings. What is the cost of a dog?

In saying all that we were considering a Short Haired Belgian Malinois, Euro Military and Police nose dog, used for agility competitions which we were hoping just to train for Frisby. But they do not fall into the dogs allowed in this programme.

Which leads me to another question, do you allow your dog to be family dog when not on hunt and can they differentiate how to act differently if so?

Originally Posted by stug

My dog Lily, that I trained using the blueprint did her longest tracking job last night. Up til now all her tracking jobs have been short and I’ve seen the deer fall so know where it is.
Last night I hit a hind behind the shoulder and she ran off into the scrub. When we got to where she had been Lily instantly started tracking. No blood to start off with and no prints on the ground. I trusted the dog and let her move out. After a while there was a good amount of blood on some bushes, this continued with blood every 20-30m but hard to work out direction of travel. At one point the deer turned and went straight uphill for a while. Following Lily was really hard in the low scrub and my pack getting caught up. Eventually Lily tracked to the dead hind.
Real proud of her after that one.
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What "stock" is that? LOL.

@Back2Hunt Lily is a bitsa, border collie, heading dog and Smithfield apparently. She cost $100, so cheap dogs are out there.