Thread: Calibers

It's a dictionary and they spell two as to in a sentence.

Originally Posted by CreepingDeath

Yea you should try getting two cats in a bath...
Urban Dictionary: Two Cats in the Bath Tub

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Not heard that one before

I like a gun that goes BANG! And what I was pointing at is laid out flat. Shiiiiit . . . I'll let others worry about the prep . . . hehehehe

Man, I a bit gutted I can't get 3,400fps with my big 7mm with 180's. Might have to go back to a RUM, but then I was only getting about 3,300fps out of that with 160's and cases were only good for 3 firings...

Oh, and I know what the parent case is... But I'm not telling

Originally Posted by The Claw

Man, I a bit gutted I can't get 3,400fps with my big 7mm with 180's. Might have to go back to a RUM, but then I was only getting about 3,300fps out of that with 160's and cases were only good for 3 firings...

Oh, and I know what the parent case is... But I'm not telling

Apparently its all about "deep throat"

Originally Posted by sneeze

Apparently its all about "deep throat"

Classic!

Originally Posted by sneeze

Apparently its all about "deep throat"

Ah! Ha! I hear the jet screaming over heads right now.

Originally Posted by tui_man2

an we will all go back to shooting 308s

Finally some common sense in this thread!
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Originally Posted by tui_man2

I know what the edge +p is but still would like to know load for that speed? Way I see is, to scared to post must be hot?
my screamer is 102.5gr of us869 at 180gr hybrid at 90.25mm oal 215m primer for a honest 3300 give or take 40 for different tubes but I only tried 4 tubes as only done 4. This load is not hot but does all it has to do

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What pressure does it run at?

Originally Posted by Spanners

What pressure does it run at?

Now there is a shit stirring question if ever i heard one.

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Now there is a shit stirring question if ever i heard one.

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Really???
Someone makes a claim of X case and Y speed and it gets shot to pieces as it cant be done safely due to'pressure'
Someone else does the same thing on Z case and all of a sudden the laws of physics don't apply??

Seriously... If the world as we know it has just changed and substantial progress has been made to what we know and what supposably was the limit of centrefire cartridge loading then there has to be that data and info available.
If not, then it's 6 months later and hands on cocks and hypocrites.

You can't honestly expect the same questions not to be asked about the same claims

Originally Posted by Spanners

Really???
Someone makes a claim of X case and Y speed and it gets shot to pieces as it cant be done safely due to'pressure'
Someone else does the same thing on Z case and all of a sudden the laws of physics don't apply??

Seriously... If the world as we know it has just changed and substantial progress has been made to what we know and what supposably was the limit of centrefire cartridge loading then there has to be that data and info available.
If not, then it's 6 months later and hands on cocks and hypocrites.

You can't honestly expect the same questions not to be asked about the same claims

So last time this got asked all you said where cases where 'cut, inspected an measured'?
When the speed claims where coming off how many shots? Got claimed to be chambering after 4 firings? an no F/L needed

Well if that load is hot then i can go one better, have fired.......................672 out the 1st barrel a half shagged 7mm rem mag standard sendero tube.................513 throught this last tube an ................(54 through this tube, new brass so dont count)

Have NEVER had to body die to bump them the first 100 cases yet an an they done 1185 rounds, firing 150 swifts,160 AB, 162 a-max, 168 bergers, 180 bergers pushed them all till i had flat primer an light ejector mark, its a rem bolt so we all know how easy these can an do mark cases. Annealed cases every 3 firings an pockets still tight brass is still been used on that last tube its on another action. The odd on that was tight got put in the bush load pile an put down to brass been bit different to the rest.

We are talking norma brass also here not big cheytac cases........................

So your right must be fucken hot

It looks to me like there could not possibly be a "right" answer to that question.
Its been thrashed already but you know that.

Brass is fine= you must be using hard brass and it doesn't show pressure like normal so you are over stressing action.

I used a strain gauge and got xyz =
That is too high a pressure.
Your numbers are meaningless due to the variables inhernt in that system.
Im not posting pressures as they are meaningless = so you must be overloading then if you won't post pressure and you have the gear.
A strong action and brass can safely exceed accepted "normal" pressure and is a product of evolution or we would all be shooting 303s etc.= i forget, where did that thread end up?

Constant digs between two members and there mates going in to bat on behalf round and round is wearing thin.

Im friends with the two main targets, when i get a build i will probably end up paying full price at robbies or somewhere cos i don't want to face the why did you get him to build it instead of me .

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I didnt mean to imply anything was too hot or overloaded, I was simply putting the shoe out to go on the other foot

All sorts of numbers and results were thrown around for and against 6-12 months ago, the tables have turned and what was said that wasnt achievable then, is now for some strange reason.
Would be far to easy to simply quote comments and use it against the original author, and to point out facts like what was getting called 'dangerous' by one person was infact the EXACT same load that was being loaded by them for their customers.

It really boils down nothing more than a game of dick waving and hypocritical statements.

There is LOTS of cool stuff happening around NZ, and alot of it will never come to the light of day as for the simple reason that the people involved cant be fucked dealing with those that knock it for prob no more reason than they were beaten to the punch.
Im not talking the usual few thou smaller, few thou bigger 'game changers' than appear every 5 mins, but things that have NEVER been done before like new proprietary cases, calibrated terminal ballistic testing, and there is something that maybe only 2 people in the world are doing that reduces indicated signs of pressure in the same case, same loading and same chamber dimensions, and which in itself is SO simple and easy to be justified scientifically however they cant be fucked dealing with the situation of which rung on the ladder they belong on that seems to be all too common when it comes to something 'new'. Its not just here, you see it on every forum that has anything to do with new and different wildcats

The benchmark has been raised anyway; 3300fps with a 300 Berger

KG raised that benchmark himself with a 300gr Berger at 3500fps.