Thread: Calibers

Originally Posted by 7mmsaum

Are you asking me or assuming and telling me? , you put a question mark on a statement.

Asking to see your load for that speed. . ,

http://adi-powders.com.au/handloader...n+Ultra+Magnum

Nothing close to that I know adi way under sometimes but 350feet faster?
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Contesting Load data is irrelevant without complete barrel/chamber/ lead and throat specs.

Ask Carlock if you can have his Edge +P specs, there you will find your clues, and the same answer

Originally Posted by 7mmsaum

Contesting Load data is irrelevant without complete barrel/chamber/ lead and throat specs.

Ask Carlock if you can have his Edge +P specs, there you will find your clues, and the same answer

I know what the edge +p is but still would like to know load for that speed? Way I see is, to scared to post must be hot?
my screamer is 102.5gr of us869 at 180gr hybrid at 90.25mm oal 215m primer for a honest 3300 give or take 40 for different tubes but I only tried 4 tubes as only done 4. This load is not hot but does all it has to do

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Originally Posted by tui_man2

I know what the edge +p is but still would like to know load for that speed? Way I see is, to scared to post must be hot?
my screamer is 102.5gr of us869 at 180gr hybrid at 90.25mm oal 215m primer for a honest 3300 give or take 40 for different tubes but I only tried 4 tubes as only done 4. This load is not hot but does all it has to do

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What pressure does it run at?

Originally Posted by Spanners

What pressure does it run at?

Now there is a shit stirring question if ever i heard one.

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Now there is a shit stirring question if ever i heard one.

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Really???
Someone makes a claim of X case and Y speed and it gets shot to pieces as it cant be done safely due to'pressure'
Someone else does the same thing on Z case and all of a sudden the laws of physics don't apply??

Seriously... If the world as we know it has just changed and substantial progress has been made to what we know and what supposably was the limit of centrefire cartridge loading then there has to be that data and info available.
If not, then it's 6 months later and hands on cocks and hypocrites.

You can't honestly expect the same questions not to be asked about the same claims

Originally Posted by Spanners

What pressure does it run at?

My big 7mm (Fatmax), which (I'm assuming, so could be very wrong) is almost identical To Abe's 7mm screamer is pushing a 180gr hybrid at 3,300fps. 100gr of US869, 215GM primers, Norma brass, very similar OAL. Measured at 65,000psi with this load, using a Remington 700 action.

My 338 Lunatic, pushes a 300gr Hybrid at just under 3,300fps. Approx 140gr gr US869, 215GM primers, Jamison Brass. 67,500psi, Barnard P-Chey.

They could both push their projectiles faster I'm sure, heaps of available powder space to do that, but until there is some concrete, well documented evidence, from a well respected gun expert etc I'm happy to stick with the pressure as loaded above.

I have a wife, 2 kids, a good job, nice house etc, and quite frankly, I'm not going to trade that for a 100-200fps gain on the cloak and dagger advice/ramblings of some idiot that won't cough up any real data.

That is all I am going to say on this subject. I'm tired of it and the complaining that enviably follows when the pressure question is asked after load data is posted that gives velocities clearly/substantially above what has been the reported norm for a particular chambering. Why post these numbers if you are not willing to provide some data?

26 an 27 inch tubes

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Ok, so you know what the Edge+ P is, now you want to find out how it works so well.
In a helpful manner my post suggested you email Carlock to get his throat/barrel specifications that enabled him to achieve such high speeds with little pressure gains, this info will be very valuable to you, and will answer any further questions you have, professionally.

You and Carlock are gunsmiths, i know there is no way you guys trust being educated from the internet, you have qualified in your respective fields well enough for the general public to trust your training with 55,000 psi so close to their face.

In every way, its you guys that already know this stuff, gain popularity by educating us, and for that we will all be thankful.

Many thanks quentin, much appreciated.

Originally Posted by Tussock

7mm Remington Ultra Magnum is based on 404 Jeffery brass.

Is the Wingman basically just a RUM, doing the same speed, but with brass that costs twice as much?

Why not just use RUM brass? Why not just use a RUM?

Ahh grasshoppa there is no chi left in this one

Kick it to the kerb mate you are miles off, the winman can use the rum brass but has to be shortened where it becomes as much work an necking down 375ruger brass to 7mm

Tussock you are a mile off with the parent case. you will all have to set and wait and see !!!

because like you say been done an its 2.875" long an the 7mm rum in my mind is the biggest un efficent lomon of the rums down load the rum an you have a rem mag/ suam

when young crnkin had his 7mm rum still max load with 2225 an he just made 3k with 180s 3010fps think it was my screamer with same charge was 250 faster......

Our case that we are using is neck down, little turn, flash form an go offers easy dies an nice redding bushing dies even comp dies if you want them.

Barrel will last longer than the rum barrel, brass is better than rum brass, an will match rum speeds........normal rum speeds

I dont get all the anti going on. Your all asking why?what for, i think its cause he want to and he can. If i had half his skill set or access to half the gear i would be doing much more redundant and pointless excersises just for shits n giggles. This seems like a worthy cal and your all shooting it down without knowing its full capabilities or properties. I see a giant fuck off 7mm in my future , I personally dont get all the nay saying and nit picking that goes on here i mean what a awsome group of knowledgable chaps we have most of who are willing to offer free advice and troubleshooting. Ive seen it happen on the other forum were people like this get sick of the shit and stop answering i think that would be a real shame to repeat the same mistake over a bit of ego or black cats blacker syndrome.

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Originally Posted by Tussock

Its not anti. Being secretive on an internet forum is impossible. Its like a scab. We are going to pick and pick at it. Till we know what it is

Better pull out the wreaking bar the tussock only a hand full of people know so it wont be leaked till its done, then you can run it down an we will all go back to shooting 308s