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What CAD program mate? We use Solid Works...


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Originally Posted by Danny

What CAD program mate? We use Solid Works...


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Most likly solidworks. We will buy whatever the person we take on is good with.

Originally Posted by Beaker

Good or bad surprise?

Good surprise. Punctual, tidy, willing and keen.

Originally Posted by DPT

You guys are lucky, the engineering company i used to work for, we had a few young guys through the doors over the years and only one of them was any good.

60 replies to a Trademe advert. 9 of them could have started yesterday and I doubt we would have had any problems at all. Obviously an apprentice will be an easier position to fill than a tradesman but they don't just come out of the Weetbix box. We have to train them first and engineering as a whole (actually all trades) forgot to do that for probably for the last 10 years.

This position is still open

New link to advert http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...?id=1013397449

Originally Posted by Tussock

I have had an eye on job listings for about four years. I have noted the huge number of "experience wanted" adds relative to incredibly rare introductory positions. This is going to bite New Zealand in the arse so hard its not even funny. Sweeping retirements of boomers over the next decade, huge skill shortages and no one in training.

Totally agree its better to build a skilled employee from scratch without the bad habits. You have absolute free reign when it comes to talent, if everyone is hiring for experience over talent.

I spose if I wanted to put the company on hold for ten years I could train someone . We need someone that can hit the floor running with a lot more experience than I have at running these machines. What we want is not something that can be learnt in a couple of years...

I am happy to wait for the right person to come along, we are not willing to risk our reputation or risk our machines on someone that is not up to the job at hand. All it would take is one simple mistake to put one of our production machines out of operation that would really damage the company. And the simple fact of the matter is I just don't have the time nor experience to train someone to what we want.

Yep you are right but to be fair, DPT are looking for expertise that they haven't got already... that is not the case for established expertise and companies that only hire qualified staff. Its biting everywhere already because of that....

Sounds like you need to contract one from a company rather than find an employee to do so.

I can see both sides of this experienced/take on a appy argument.

When you need someone with certain skills thats who you need not an apprentice.

We need both at my work and I think we have just taken on a keen young fella as an appy.

Experienced Tradesmen with the right experience are hard to find and that is not helped by pay rates largely and not enough apprentices being taken on and the potential apprentices themselves being next to useless.

We have had 7 or 8 young fellas who just are not upto the task or are just shit employees before finding one worth offering a apprenticeship.

Just getting someone who

1) Shows up every day
2) Doesn't believe that dodgy windscreen wipers are a reason to call in sick
3) Doesn't spell 'faggot' as 'faget'
4) Work starts at 8am (for instance), that means being ready to rock and roll at 8am, boots on, not rocking up at 8:09 (traffic was shit aaaaaaye)
5) Doesn't have his mum call up with uniform laundry concerns (no shit, she wanted me to wash his gear)
6) one thousand more examples

...is a fucking struggle. Maybe it's the industry I'm in, but I've had it with the auto trade anyway, it's a magnet for douchebaggery. I want to retrain as a fridgie, get the fuck out of Auckland, and kill and eat shit on the weekends (Yes you can do this in Auckland, but the police eventually come looking for the rowdy neighbours, who of course you ate first)

Originally Posted by Tommy

Just getting someone who

1) Shows up every day
2) Doesn't believe that dodgy windscreen wipers are a reason to call in sick
3) Doesn't spell 'faggot' as 'faget'
4) Work starts at 8am (for instance), that means being ready to rock and roll at 8am, boots on, not rocking up at 8:09 (traffic was shit aaaaaaye)
5) Doesn't have his mum call up with uniform laundry concerns (no shit, she wanted me to wash his gear)
6) one thousand more examples

...is a fucking struggle. Maybe it's the industry I'm in, but I've had it with the auto trade anyway, it's a magnet for douchebaggery. I want to retrain as a fridgie, get the fuck out of Auckland, and kill and eat shit on the weekends (Yes you can do this in Auckland, but the police eventually come looking for the rowdy neighbours, who of course you ate first)

Mate Tell me about it
I run two retail stores and looking to expand but staffing is the Biggest hold back

As a young guy trying to break through into the engineering industry it is incredibly hard. I find myself applying for jobs even where it specifies that they are after a tradesman with 10+ years experience because I hope that they might call or email to say "Your application has been unsuccessful on this occasion", so I can explain I'm after an apprenticeship,
With no word of a lie, I would have applied for at least 40+ engineering jobs in the past two months alone, all of them not even getting past the first stage due to lack of experience, but how am I to get more without being offered an opportunity?
Luckily, I'm 19 and have age/time on my side. I also work in workshop (we produce exhausts for trucks, diggers etc) where I'm welding, operating lathes, mills, drills, presses, rollers, benders and other assortments of machines.
I back myself on my welding ability using MIG and Arc, working on my TIG. Also pretty happy with my machining capabilities, although our lathe is from the 50's I'm getting a really good grounding on my basic skills.

All this, and I still get turned down because they want Tradies and not keen young bucks who always show up early and are keen to learn and take everything on board.

Rant over

Originally Posted by nz_hunter

As a young guy trying to break through into the engineering industry it is incredibly hard. I find myself applying for jobs even where it specifies that they are after a tradesman with 10+ years experience because I hope that they might call or email to say "Your application has been unsuccessful on this occasion", so I can explain I'm after an apprenticeship,
With no word of a lie, I would have applied for at least 40+ engineering jobs in the past two months alone, all of them not even getting past the first stage due to lack of experience, but how am I to get more without being offered an opportunity?
Luckily, I'm 19 and have age/time on my side. I also work in workshop (we produce exhausts for trucks, diggers etc) where I'm welding, operating lathes, mills, drills, presses, rollers, benders and other assortments of machines.
I back myself on my welding ability using MIG and Arc, working on my TIG. Also pretty happy with my machining capabilities, although our lathe is from the 50's I'm getting a really good grounding on my basic skills.

All this, and I still get turned down because they want Tradies and not keen young bucks who always show up early and are keen to learn and take everything on board.

Rant over

My crystal ball says you're going to do just fine mate. Best of luck

@nz_hunter. You'll be fine. Good things take time.