Thread: Hawkes Bay Rifle Club

Originally Posted by kiwijames

Yes I will look at it a bit further. I understand it has a few benches and mounds out to 400?

Its a bloody good little setup out there have been a number of times ,ranges from 100 out to 400 and another shorter range is being setup just before the entrance to it,like someone said opening hours are the same as Higgins hours....unless you have a key.
good to go and sight in the rifles , a lot better then the other range that's being setup that I made enquiries about.

Originally Posted by madmaori

Its a bloody good little setup out there have been a number of times ,ranges from 100 out to 400 and another shorter range is being setup just before the entrance to it,like someone said opening hours are the same as Higgins hours....unless you have a key.
good to go and sight in the rifles , a lot better then the other range that's being setup that I made enquiries about.

Yes. There is a new range in now. 100 yard to the left of the 400y range. It's to be on a booking system as it can get busy on the original range. I forgot to get the details but you can register with HBRC and from there I guess you can book your time slot.

Bookings for the new 100 yd range are taken at Rivers to Ranges Hastings.

Opening day this Saturday. Be at the range by 12:45 for 1pm start

See you there!

Good turn out for the first weekend. See you all again this Saturday!

600y tomorrow!

Hi, what's your rules re calibre's, is a 7mm rem mag ok?

Originally Posted by Kooza

Hi, what's your rules re calibre's, is a 7mm rem mag ok?

Yes

Originally Posted by 7mmsaum

Yes

Ok cool, practice makes perfect might be worth a visit. Thanks

Originally Posted by Kooza

Hi, what's your rules re calibre's, is a 7mm rem mag ok?

See post #12 on this thread.
That's a std national NRA limit

Originally Posted by 6x47

See post #12 on this thread.
That's a std national NRA limit

Ok thanks, yeah I read the full post and I'm under the max energy (ft-lbs)

Further to that, I see that the National (Seddon) range at Trentham now has a reduced limit, namely 4500 Joules. The Army imposing their arbitrary limits..

Originally Posted by 6x47

Further to that, I see that the National (Seddon) range at Trentham now has a reduced limit, namely 4500 Joules. The Army imposing their arbitrary limits..

Is that on the NRANZ website somewhere?

Originally Posted by zimmer

Is that on the NRANZ website somewhere?

It is in a letter from the NRANZ to their members

From: NRANZ Secretary <secretary@nranz.org.nz>
Date: 14 November 2016 at 12:25:15 PM NZDT
To: secretary@nranz.org.nz
Subject: Message from the Chairman - Maximum Muzzle Energy on Seddon Range now 4500 joules
Reply-To: secretary@nranz.org.nz
Muzzle Energy Level on Seddon Range will be a Maximum of 4500 joules and enforced until further notice.

The Trentham Range RSOs (Range Standing Orders) has stated that the maximum Muzzle Energy (ME) that is allowed on Seddon Range is 4300 joules.


As of Thursday, 10 November 2016, the maximum ME allowed on Seddon Range has been raised to 4500 joules.
This ME will remain until further notice.


Please be aware that all competitors will be subject to random checking and possible chronograph testing of their ammunition at all events on Seddon Range for the foreseeable future. This will begin with the WRA Spring and Hawkes Bay meet this weekend coming, 19-20 November.


Please be aware that this situation may stretch out to the 2017 NRANZ Nationals in January. Therefore National Competitors should prepare ammunition loads in case this situation remains until then.


NRANZ regrets this situation has arisen but we must address that higher ME ammunition has apparently been shot on Seddon in the past.


Members can be assured that negotiations between NZDF and NRANZ are in progress to address the situation ASAP.

For guidance the following projectile weights and muzzle velocity table is provided to show approximate muzzle energy.


Also for background information please find below the ICFRA Rules relating to ammunition at ICFRA events, and, from the Australian Rifle Association Standard Rule. These show that whatever can be fired must conform to the host range conditions.


It may be of interest to note that Belmont 1000yd Range, Brisbane, has a 4745 joules ME.

Proj
fps ME (joules)

155
3000 4197
3025 4268
3050 4338
3075 4410
3100 4482

185
2800 4367
2820 4429
2840 4492
2850 4524
2900 4684


210
2660 4473
2665 4490
2670 4507
2675 4524

ICFRA Ammunition Rules

F Class:
F2-20. Ammunition may be commercial or handloaded but loaded in a manner consistent with the ammunition industry's accepted standards; must be safe to fire in the rifle for which it is intended and must meet in all respects the limitations of any range regulations (e.g. calibre, velocity, muzzle energy etc.). Even if permitted thereunder, prohibited bullets will be those having a core consisting of steel, hardened material, depleted uranium, incendiary or tracer compounds. Also prohibited are bullets of monolithic construction or those having a discarding jacket/sabot.

TR:
T2.21. Ammunition may not be used which is forbidden under specific rules provided for in Range Regulations. Even if permitted thereunder, prohibited bullets will be those having a core consisting of steel, hardened material, depleted uranium, incendiary or tracer compounds. Also prohibited are bullets of monolithic construction or those having a discarding jacket / sabot.

NRAA
20.42 Ammunition may be commercial or handloaded but loaded in a manner consistent with the ammunition industry’s accepted standards; must be safe to fire in the rifle for which it is intended and must meet in all
respects the limitations of any range regulations (e.g. calibre, velocity, muzzle energy etc.).

Kind regards

Ross Mason
Chairman, NRANZ

Helen Morgan
NRANZ Secretary

National Rifle Association of New Zealand Inc.
PO Box 47-036 Trentham, Wellington, New Zealand 5143
Home » National Rifle Association of New Zealand email: secretary@nranz.org.nz
Telephone +64 4 528 4843

@Cyclops Cheers, thanks for that.
Yeah I have let my membership lapse (too expensive for me given I don't participate in any national shoots anymore) so I am persona non grata for any comms.

The attachment is the old limits (2010) from the NDACert. I just wish any changes would be versed in the same language as used in the original official document.
But still, I am no longer a member so of no concern for me.

Have a friend heading to the Spring Meeting who has just changed to a 7mmSAUM - he might be getting close.