Thread: Going to give pistol shooting a go

Originally Posted by Beavis

* have fun

The key. Have fun.

Originally Posted by Beavis

*You are allowed up to 12 pistols on your B endorsement, who's to say I wont own anything competive

*Maybe I don't care about wanky grades and divisions and just want to shoot shit and have fun

Whatever you do don't tell your assessing officer or AO that. You might not get the endorsement.



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That's fine. But those people should be forced to go down to the ISSF range to shoot and not hold everyone up on the other ranges by taking two minutes to shoot a 16 round stage.

I want to shoot two or three handgun stages on a Saturday afternoon, then maybe a rifle stage. Not wait all day while someone takes five shots at each plate or popper, reloading from their pockets because they still haven't been able to buy any magazine pouches for their orphan pistol.

That's fine, I struggle to get excited about 3 gun, for whatever reason. Not that I'd shoot it with an antique pistol anyway.

Chill out guys.

Shoot open to get gooder. Or wallow in the slower divisions and be left behind.

Originally Posted by systolic

That's fine. But those people should be forced to go down to the ISSF range to shoot and not hold everyone up on the other ranges by taking two minutes to shoot a 16 round stage.

I want to shoot two or three handgun stages on a Saturday afternoon, then maybe a rifle stage. Not wait all day while someone takes five shots at each plate or popper, reloading from their pockets because they still haven't been able to buy any magazine pouches for their orphan pistol.

I sort of agree with you, regarding wanting to shoot lots.
I don't agree with the force into issf.

It depends on your club and range as to what you can shoot. I like ipsc type shooting. With our club and range, 5+ stages, with anything that you want to shoot is very possible on any day. And if your concerned about waiting, go set up a stage or 4 on a different range to fill in time.

Originally Posted by Beaker

I sort of agree with you, regarding wanting to shoot lots.
I don't agree with the force into issf.

It depends on your club and range as to what you can shoot. I like ipsc type shooting. With our club and range, 5+ stages, with anything that you want to shoot is very possible on any day. And if your concerned about waiting, go set up a stage or 4 on a different range to fill in time.

I didn't mean forced to shoot ISSF, just shoot on the ISSF range with whatever guns they like. Out of the way of those who want to get the most value for their time and money.

Edited to add: I can't go just and shoot on other ranges when I'm normally stuck as either RO or scorer for the stages that, as often as not, designed and built that morning.

Is recreational shooting frowned on or something? Like just turning up on a non competition day and smashing rounds out at steel plates for your own amusement and practice? Also I don't really see how using an "orphan" pistol would be much of an issue for Service matches, you only need 6 rounds in two mags.

Originally Posted by Beavis

Is recreational shooting frowned on or something? Like just turning up on a non competition day and smashing rounds out at steel plates for your own amusement and practice? Also I don't really see how using an "orphan" pistol would be much of an issue for Service matches, you only need 6 rounds in two mags.

Clubs differ

We shoot with a practice area most Sundays so everyone can do their own thing

I think that the idea is to *NOT* make all other disciplines think that pistol shooters are wankers and so far this thread and particularly one git's contributions seem to be running the other way

I like shooting and having fun

Originally Posted by 308

Clubs differ

We shoot with a practice area most Sundays so everyone can do their own thing

I think that the idea is to *NOT* make all other disciplines think that pistol shooters are wankers and so far this thread and particularly one git's contributions seem to be running the other way

I like shooting and having fun

Do you mean "IPSC" shooters being thought of as wankers, instead of pistol shooters in general?

Our club also has no problem with recreational shooters coming to put rounds into steels on a Sunday, but we do find that, aside from 1-2 mainly BP guys that turn up very regularly, guys that don't fall into a competetive discipline gradually lose interest. We're now in a difficult position due to a small group that may just turn up to a club shoot to sign the log book and leave. I guess some people enjoy the ownership of a pistol more than the act of using it.
Luckily there are plenty of other disciplines that are competetive but don't require such competitive gear. You could happily shoot speed steel with a p38 or tt33

Originally Posted by Beavis

Is recreational shooting frowned on or something? Like just turning up on a non competition day and smashing rounds out at steel plates for your own amusement and practice? Also I don't really see how using an "orphan" pistol would be much of an issue for Service matches, you only need 6 rounds in two mags.

No it is not. But just owning a pistol for the sake of owning one is/should not get anyone a B endorsement.

You have to be a member of a club to hold a B. (C endorsement is a different story.)

People that just want to own a pistol or shoot shit do not generally prove to be valuable club members in my experience. Why should a club endorse you in that instance?

They rarely contribute to anything the club does coz they think the competitive members are wanky. (Yet without them they wouldnt have a B in the first place.)

In some cases they have appalling safety habits, potentially putting the club as an entity at risk because they have not attended any club matches or range days where some supervision under a skilled RO would be of benefit.

So imho, unless you have an interest in a certain discipline and willing to contribute to the club that has to support your B endorsement (you don't have to compete higher than club level)

A person should not be given their B.






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We'll see how it goes

Originally Posted by specweapon

Do you mean "IPSC" shooters being thought of as wankers, instead of pistol shooters in general?

Our club also has no problem with recreational shooters coming to put rounds into steels on a Sunday, but we do find that, aside from 1-2 mainly BP guys that turn up very regularly, guys that don't fall into a competetive discipline gradually lose interest. We're now in a difficult position due to a small group that may just turn up to a club shoot to sign the log book and leave. I guess some people enjoy the ownership of a pistol more than the act of using it.
Luckily there are plenty of other disciplines that are competetive but don't require such competitive gear. You could happily shoot speed steel with a p38 or tt33

Pistol shooters in general - I hope that OP enjoys pistol shooting and finds something that suits him

I can't be arsed with the negativity from some people so will leave yas to it

Originally Posted by R93

No it is not. But just owning a pistol for the sake of owning one is/should not get anyone a B endorsement.

You have to be a member of a club to hold a B. (C endorsement is a different story.)

People that just want to own a pistol or shoot shit do not generally prove to be valuable club members in my experience. Why should a club endorse you in that instance?

They rarely contribute to anything the club does coz they think the competitive members are wanky. (Yet without them they wouldnt have a B in the first place.)

In some cases they have appalling safety habits, potentially putting the club as an entity at risk because they have not attended any club matches or range days where some supervision under a skilled RO would be of benefit.

So imho, unless you have an interest in a certain discipline and willing to contribute to the club that has to support your B endorsement (you don't have to compete higher than club level)

A person should not be given their B.






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I agree, but it's the last point that gets me.

We have people in our club, that don't want to do national comps etc., but enjoy coming down on a Saturday and shooting. In my case, they are also the people that do most of the work for the club (working bees, ro, holster certifiers etc....). Maybe in the past they have been competitive on a bigger stage, but now just like the club environment. Or like me, I don't care about grading etc, but do enjoy shooting and the club comradery.

Certainly agree with you on people that just want to own pistols and not be a part of a club ethos, don't do anything for a club/range, etc, they shouldn't have a b.

And as for beavis, good luck and if your in the South island, give me a heads up, and come and have a shot with us.

Back on track, my B came through this morning, yippee!!