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    Quote Originally Posted by systolic View Post
    Only with people who want to stay at the bottom of D grade forever.
    *You are allowed up to 12 pistols on your B endorsement, who's to say I wont own anything competive

    *Maybe I don't care about wanky grades and divisions and just want to shoot shit and have fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beavis View Post
    * have fun
    The key. Have fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beavis View Post
    *You are allowed up to 12 pistols on your B endorsement, who's to say I wont own anything competive

    *Maybe I don't care about wanky grades and divisions and just want to shoot shit and have fun
    Whatever you do don't tell your assessing officer or AO that. You might not get the endorsement.



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    Don't be offended @Beavis, it's just that most people without their B endorsement plan on buying Glocks and Deagles. Not, surprisingly well made, pistols like Norinco's that probably cost more to import than buying locally the pistol they're a copy of

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    That's fine, I struggle to get excited about 3 gun, for whatever reason. Not that I'd shoot it with an antique pistol anyway.

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    Is recreational shooting frowned on or something? Like just turning up on a non competition day and smashing rounds out at steel plates for your own amusement and practice? Also I don't really see how using an "orphan" pistol would be much of an issue for Service matches, you only need 6 rounds in two mags.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beavis View Post
    Is recreational shooting frowned on or something? Like just turning up on a non competition day and smashing rounds out at steel plates for your own amusement and practice? Also I don't really see how using an "orphan" pistol would be much of an issue for Service matches, you only need 6 rounds in two mags.
    Clubs differ

    We shoot with a practice area most Sundays so everyone can do their own thing

    I think that the idea is to *NOT* make all other disciplines think that pistol shooters are wankers and so far this thread and particularly one git's contributions seem to be running the other way

    I like shooting and having fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by 308 View Post
    Clubs differ

    We shoot with a practice area most Sundays so everyone can do their own thing

    I think that the idea is to *NOT* make all other disciplines think that pistol shooters are wankers and so far this thread and particularly one git's contributions seem to be running the other way

    I like shooting and having fun
    Do you mean "IPSC" shooters being thought of as wankers, instead of pistol shooters in general?

    Our club also has no problem with recreational shooters coming to put rounds into steels on a Sunday, but we do find that, aside from 1-2 mainly BP guys that turn up very regularly, guys that don't fall into a competetive discipline gradually lose interest. We're now in a difficult position due to a small group that may just turn up to a club shoot to sign the log book and leave. I guess some people enjoy the ownership of a pistol more than the act of using it.
    Luckily there are plenty of other disciplines that are competetive but don't require such competitive gear. You could happily shoot speed steel with a p38 or tt33

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    Quote Originally Posted by specweapon View Post
    Do you mean "IPSC" shooters being thought of as wankers, instead of pistol shooters in general?

    Our club also has no problem with recreational shooters coming to put rounds into steels on a Sunday, but we do find that, aside from 1-2 mainly BP guys that turn up very regularly, guys that don't fall into a competetive discipline gradually lose interest. We're now in a difficult position due to a small group that may just turn up to a club shoot to sign the log book and leave. I guess some people enjoy the ownership of a pistol more than the act of using it.
    Luckily there are plenty of other disciplines that are competetive but don't require such competitive gear. You could happily shoot speed steel with a p38 or tt33
    Pistol shooters in general - I hope that OP enjoys pistol shooting and finds something that suits him

    I can't be arsed with the negativity from some people so will leave yas to it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beavis View Post
    Is recreational shooting frowned on or something? Like just turning up on a non competition day and smashing rounds out at steel plates for your own amusement and practice? Also I don't really see how using an "orphan" pistol would be much of an issue for Service matches, you only need 6 rounds in two mags.
    No it is not. But just owning a pistol for the sake of owning one is/should not get anyone a B endorsement.

    You have to be a member of a club to hold a B. (C endorsement is a different story.)

    People that just want to own a pistol or shoot shit do not generally prove to be valuable club members in my experience. Why should a club endorse you in that instance?

    They rarely contribute to anything the club does coz they think the competitive members are wanky. (Yet without them they wouldnt have a B in the first place.)

    In some cases they have appalling safety habits, potentially putting the club as an entity at risk because they have not attended any club matches or range days where some supervision under a skilled RO would be of benefit.

    So imho, unless you have an interest in a certain discipline and willing to contribute to the club that has to support your B endorsement (you don't have to compete higher than club level)

    A person should not be given their B.






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    Quote Originally Posted by R93 View Post
    No it is not. But just owning a pistol for the sake of owning one is/should not get anyone a B endorsement.

    You have to be a member of a club to hold a B. (C endorsement is a different story.)

    People that just want to own a pistol or shoot shit do not generally prove to be valuable club members in my experience. Why should a club endorse you in that instance?

    They rarely contribute to anything the club does coz they think the competitive members are wanky. (Yet without them they wouldnt have a B in the first place.)

    In some cases they have appalling safety habits, potentially putting the club as an entity at risk because they have not attended any club matches or range days where some supervision under a skilled RO would be of benefit.

    So imho, unless you have an interest in a certain discipline and willing to contribute to the club that has to support your B endorsement (you don't have to compete higher than club level)

    A person should not be given their B.






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    I agree, but it's the last point that gets me.

    We have people in our club, that don't want to do national comps etc., but enjoy coming down on a Saturday and shooting. In my case, they are also the people that do most of the work for the club (working bees, ro, holster certifiers etc....). Maybe in the past they have been competitive on a bigger stage, but now just like the club environment. Or like me, I don't care about grading etc, but do enjoy shooting and the club comradery.

    Certainly agree with you on people that just want to own pistols and not be a part of a club ethos, don't do anything for a club/range, etc, they shouldn't have a b.

    And as for beavis, good luck and if your in the South island, give me a heads up, and come and have a shot with us.
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    We'll see how it goes

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    Back on track, my B came through this morning, yippee!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stug View Post
    Back on track, my B came through this morning, yippee!!
    Mini Match on Sunday
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    Quote Originally Posted by nzfubz View Post
    Mini Match on Sunday
    Saw that, I'd already organised a hunting trip that weekend.

 

 

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