Thread: Tips for CZ shadow shooters

To me production is good because I can't mess with stuff. I'm just a trigger puller and about as inept with anything engineering related as you can get; couple of years back before the prepackaged standard guns etc there was a lot of jiggery pokery going on to optimize shit. People milling down sights and hammers to get their standard pistols in the box with an extra round or so or to have a 5.4" slide rather than a 5". Its funny looking at the facebook Tanfoglio sites with pristine pistols and if you look at the top NZ guys all their pistols have bits of tape slapped on and filing marks from a bit of DIY gun smithing.

Originally Posted by Mufasa

To me production is good because I can't mess with stuff. I'm just a trigger puller and about as inept with anything engineering related as you can get; couple of years back before the prepackaged standard guns etc there was a lot of jiggery pokery going on to optimize shit. People milling down sights and hammers to get their standard pistols in the box with an extra round or so or to have a 5.4" slide rather than a 5". Its funny looking at the facebook Tanfoglio sites with pristine pistols and if you look at the top NZ guys all their pistols have bits of tape slapped on and filing marks from a bit of DIY gun smithing.

That's another good thing about Standard, any time I get a new part I get to play with a dremel.

Also what's the difference between taking the rough edges off parts and just dry firing the living piss out of the gun? Parts will wear so you'll end up with the same result, one way is just faster.

IMHO the principle behind Production has been undermined by these mass produced custom pistols like the Tanfog,Shadow2,Grandpowers with the end result, mainly in our small country, being that new competitors lose interest because they can't match the pace without opening the chequebooks or years of practice/losing. You just can't pickup a $700 glock and be competitive anymore.

To me Production should be more like the Toyota GT racing series where everyone races the same car, instead it's more like Formula 1.
But that's just my 2c, in sticking to my principles I shoot an "as it came", stock, untweaked, uncerakoted, un-spring lightened, non-thin alloy gripped SP01 Shadow and an un-fucked with Open Czechmate. And I still managed to win our Club Trophy for top shooter.
I put that all down to being coached by a local Grandmaster, good practice at home and that I approach matches with a totally different mindset to many people, shit i don't even shoot many rounds in a year

Originally Posted by specweapon

IMHO the principle behind Production has been undermined by these mass produced custom pistols like the Tanfog,Shadow2,Grandpowers with the end result, mainly in our small country, being that new competitors lose interest because they can't match the pace without opening the chequebooks or years of practice/losing. You just can't pickup a $700 glock and be competitive anymore.

To me Production should be more like the Toyota GT racing series where everyone races the same car, instead it's more like Formula 1.
But that's just my 2c, in sticking to my principles I shoot an "as it came", stock, untweaked, uncerakoted, un-spring lightened, non-thin alloy gripped SP01 Shadow and an un-fucked with Open Czechmate. And I still managed to win our Club Trophy for top shooter.
I put that all down to being coached by a local Grandmaster, good practice at home and that I approach matches with a totally different mindset to many people, shit i don't even shoot many rounds in a year

Losing interest?

Is that whey there were more production shooters at the 2016 IPSC Nationals than any other division?

And at the 2015 and 2014 Nationals?

Originally Posted by systolic

Losing interest?

Is that whey there were more production shooters at the 2016 IPSC Nationals than any other division?

And at the 2015 and 2014 Nationals?

Yes losing interest and changing sections, swapping to multigun/3 gun or just straight up giving up
Production will always have more shooters because its the entry point for the sport

I think production is 99% about skill/practise, and that's why I like it. Equipment is only a small part and you can't pay your way to GM.

Originally Posted by Banana

I think production is 99% about skill/practise, and that's why I like it. Equipment is only a small part and you can't pay your way to GM.

Too right. Doesn't stop people trying though.

Originally Posted by Banana

I think production is 99% about skill/practise, and that's why I like it. Equipment is only a small part and you can't pay your way to GM.

Especially relevant coming from someone who generally slays with a glock and homemade holster.